{"id":9968,"date":"2014-06-08T22:47:32","date_gmt":"2014-06-09T03:47:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=9968"},"modified":"2014-08-05T09:30:48","modified_gmt":"2014-08-05T14:30:48","slug":"una-reunion-en-la-realidad-zapatista-hace-unos-pocos-dias-subcomandante-insurgente-moises","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=9968","title":{"rendered":"<!--:es-->Una reuni\u00f3n en La Realidad zapatista hace unos pocos d\u00edas<!--:--><!--:en-->A meeting in La Realidad a few days ago<!--:-->"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--:es--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>EJ\u00c9RCITO ZAPATISTA DE LIBERACI\u00d3N NACIONAL.<br \/>\nM\u00c9XICO.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Junio del 2014.<\/p>\n<p>Para: La Sexta en M\u00e9xico y el Mundo.<\/p>\n<p>Compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros de la Sexta de M\u00e9xico y del mundo.<br \/>\nHermanas y hermanos de M\u00e9xico y del mundo.<\/p>\n<p>Les platico de una reuni\u00f3n que hubo en La Realidad zapatista hace unos pocos d\u00edas:<\/p>\n<p>Dicen las compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros zapatistas de La Realidad que los 3 niveles de gobiernos capitalistas que destruyeron su escuela aut\u00f3noma y su cl\u00ednica aut\u00f3noma y su manguera de donde llega su agua los compa\u00f1eros y compa\u00f1eras, quisieran que ah\u00ed acaba la lucha zapatista.<\/p>\n<p>Que ellas y ellos no se olvidan que destruyeron el primer Aguascalientes, y las zapatistas y los zapatistas construyeron cinco m\u00e1s.<\/p>\n<p>Y que no se olvidan cuando destruyeron las casas humildes de las autoridades aut\u00f3nomas de los MAREZ, Municipios Aut\u00f3nomos Rebeldes Zapatistas, en a\u00f1o 1998, de Tierra y Libertad, por el \u201ccroquetas\u201d de Roberto Albores, que destruy\u00f3 la casa aut\u00f3noma del MAREZ de Ricardo Flores Mag\u00f3n, del caracol de Garrucha, cuando era gobernador del pobre Chiapas, pobre por su culpa de ellos los malos gobiernos.<\/p>\n<p>Pero que los MAREZ siguen su camino y m\u00e1s fortalecidos ahora.<\/p>\n<p>Que no se olvidan que dijimos las, los zapatistas: con ley o sin ley vamos a llevar a cabo la autonom\u00eda, lo que son los derechos y cultura ind\u00edgena.<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><!--:en--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>ZAPATISTA ARMY FOR NATIONAL LIBERATION<br \/>\nMEXICO.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">June 2014.<\/p>\n<p>For: The Sixth in Mexico and the world<\/p>\n<p>Compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros of the Sixth in Mexico and the world:<br \/>\nBrothers and sisters of Mexico and the world:<\/p>\n<p>I want to tell you about a meeting that we had in La Realidad a few days ago.<\/p>\n<p>The Zapatista compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros of La Realidad say that the three levels of capitalist governments who destroyed their autonomous school, autonomous clinic, and the hose that brings water to the compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros wanted to destroy the Zapatista struggle then and there.<\/p>\n<p>It should not be forgotten that when the first Aguascalientes was destroyed, the Zapatistas built five more.<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><!--more--><!--:es--><\/p>\n<p>Que, por cierto, todos los partidos pol\u00edticos del poder legislativo y del poder ejecutivo y del poder judicial, nos mandaron en un tubo, creyendo que as\u00ed la semilla no germinar\u00eda. Y al contrario, tom\u00f3 fuerza y est\u00e1 en los hechos y en la pr\u00e1ctica de los propios pueblos zapatistas. Pueblo manda, gobierno obedece.<\/p>\n<p>Dicen las y los compa\u00f1eros bases de apoyo del EZLN de La Realidad que van a construir su escuela con el material que da la naturaleza y tambi\u00e9n su cl\u00ednica.<\/p>\n<p>Entonces les digo a los compa\u00f1eros de La Realidad, dejen que les escribo a los compas de la Sexta de M\u00e9xico y del mundo.<\/p>\n<p>De modo que me entiendan las y los compa\u00f1eros les dije: qu\u00e9 tal nos acusan de destrucci\u00f3n de la naturaleza, porque vamos a tumbar \u00e1rboles y palmas para el techo y los gobiernos capitalistas dicen que ellos los est\u00e1n protegiendo.<\/p>\n<p>Entonces pens\u00e9: -Y pa\u2019 qu\u00e9 dije eso.<\/p>\n<p>Empieza la lista de destrucci\u00f3n de \u00e1rboles por madereras que tienen permisado por los gobiernos capitalistas de Chiapas y de M\u00e9xico.<\/p>\n<p>Madereras piratas, dicen los compas, legal para gobiernos, porque son ellos mismos.<\/p>\n<p>Compran en rollo, o sea por trozos, dicen, un tal Salom\u00f3n de Las Margaritas. Compran en tablas, en planchones, polines. Venden los de ejido Mom\u00f3n, San Francisco, Vicente Guerrero, La Victoria, Pach\u00e1n, Ejido Tabasco, todos del municipio de Las Margaritas. Y en San Miguel, municipio de Ocosingo, Carmen Patat\u00e9, igual de Ocosingo y hay m\u00e1s en todo Chiapas.<\/p>\n<p>De modo de calmar la discusi\u00f3n que se gener\u00f3 de \u201cque nos culpan los gobiernos capitalista de destrucci\u00f3n de naturaleza\u201d, les digo a las y los compa\u00f1eros que se acaba si les escribo a los compas de la Sexta de M\u00e9xico y del mundo, qu\u00e9 tal se organizan y consigan algo de paga y as\u00ed comprar materiales.<\/p>\n<p>Y las bases de apoyo me contestan, la verdad no se acaba nada: est\u00e1 bueno compa\u00f1ero, escriba y vamos a esperar a ver qu\u00e9 pueden conseguir los compa\u00f1eros.<\/p>\n<p>Y les digo:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; \u00bfCu\u00e1nto se necesita de paga para las construcciones?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; \u00a1H\u00edjole!, eso s\u00ed no sabemos.<\/p>\n<p>Otro dice:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Ah, traigan calculadora ahorita la hacemos.<\/p>\n<p>Y llega la calculadora. Y empieza la matem\u00e1tica, y el compa dice:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; \u00a1Vaaaleeeee! \u00a1No tiene pila esta porquer\u00eda!<\/p>\n<p>Y mientras veo un viejito y en voz baja escucho que dice:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Una cuarta y un geme -, y con sus dedos de las dos manos hace su cuenta.<\/p>\n<p>Y de pronto me mira:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Ya compa \u2013 me dijo.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; \u00bf\u00a1C\u00f3mo!? \u2013 le digo yo.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; S\u00ed, ya est\u00e1 la cuenta: Para una casa de 2 plantas de 19 metros por 7 metros de ancho, o sea 19\u00d77, se necesita: 2000 blocks, 50 varillas de media, 400 varillas de 3 octavos, 60 bultos de calhidra, 520 bultos de cemento, 100 kilos de alambre de amarre, 400 de alambr\u00f3n, 84 hojas de l\u00e1mina galvanizada de 3 metros.<\/p>\n<p>Un compa interrumpe y dice: \u2013 \u00bfPor qu\u00e9 no damos el total de presupuesto de esas construcciones de 2 plantas y ya?<\/p>\n<p>-De acuerdo \u2013 dice uno.<\/p>\n<p>Y la lluvia de voces: \u00a1Acuerdo!<\/p>\n<p>El total sale $ 200,209. Doscientos mil doscientos nueve pesos.<\/p>\n<p>Que la planta baja es para escuela de ni\u00f1as y ni\u00f1os, y la de arriba para cl\u00ednica.<\/p>\n<p>Para aprovechar el terreno.<\/p>\n<p>Es s\u00f3lo construcci\u00f3n, falta materiales de salud, term\u00f3metro, bauman\u00f3metro, otoscopio y etc., y faltan los medicamentos.<\/p>\n<p>Se cierra la reuni\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Pues es lo que les platico, compas de la Sexta. Ah\u00ed lo vean si es que se va a poder conseguir esa paga.<\/p>\n<p>Desde las monta\u00f1as del Sureste Mexicano.<\/p>\n<p>Subcomandante Insurgente Mois\u00e9s.<br \/>\nM\u00e9xico, Junio del 2014.<br \/>\nEn el a\u00f1o 20 de la guerra contra el olvido.<!--:--><!--:en-->It has not been forgotten that the humble houses of the autonomous authorities of the Autonomous Zapatista Municipality in Rebellion (MAREZ) of Tierra y Libertad in 1998 and the MAREZ autonomous headquarters of Ricardo Flores Mag\u00f3n in the caracol of Garrucha were destroyed by Roberto Albores \u201ccroquetas,\u201d when he was governor of poor Chiapas\u2014poor because of the bad governments.<\/p>\n<p>But the MAREZ continue their path, and are even stronger now.<\/p>\n<p>It should not be forgotten that we Zapatistas said: with or without the government, we will carry out our autonomy, our indigenous rights and culture.<\/p>\n<p>All of the political parties and all of the branches of government, legislative, executive, and judicial, told us to go to hell, thinking that with that the seed would not germinate. On the contrary, it grew, became strong, and is present in the actions and practice of the Zapatista communities themselves, where the people rule and the government obeys.<\/p>\n<p>The compa\u00f1eros bases of support in La Realidad said they would rebuild their school and clinic with the materials that nature provides.<\/p>\n<p>So I said to the compa\u00f1eros of La Realidad: let me write to the compas of the Sixth in Mexico and the world.<\/p>\n<p>And so that the compa\u00f1eros would understand why, I explained: what if we are accused of environmental destruction? Because we would need to cut down trees for wood and use palm for the roof, and the capitalist governments say that they are the ones protecting the environment.<\/p>\n<p>And then I thought: Now why did I say that.<\/p>\n<p>They begin a list of instances of forest destruction by lumber companies who have permission from the bad governments of Chiapas and of Mexico.<\/p>\n<p>Pirate lumber companies, the compas say, though legal in the governments\u2019 eyes, because they themselves are behind them.<\/p>\n<p>The wood is purchased in parts, or pieces, says one guy, Salom\u00f3n, from Las Margaritas. They buy them as planks, slabs, and joists. They are sold by people from the ejidos of Mom\u00f3n, San Francisco, Vicente Guerrero, La Victoria, Pach\u00e1n, and the Ejido Tabasco, all in the municipality of Las Margaritas. Also from San Miguel and Carmen Patat\u00e9, in the municipality of Ocosingo, and all over Chiapas.<\/p>\n<p>In order to calm the discussion that was generated by my comment that, \u201cthe capitalist governments will blame us for environmental destruction,\u201d I tell the compa\u00f1eros and compa\u00f1eras that we could take care of this problem if I write to the compas of the Sixth in Mexico and the world; maybe they can organize themselves and get ahold of some money to buy materials.<\/p>\n<p>And the bases of support answer me\u2014well, this isn\u2019t going to be the end of the problem\u2014and say: okay compa\u00f1ero, write them and we\u2019ll wait and see what they can get together.<\/p>\n<p>I asked them: \u201cHow much money do you need for construction?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJeez! That we don\u2019t know,\u201d they say.<\/p>\n<p>Another says, \u201cBring the calculator, we\u2019ll figure it out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Somebody brings the calculator. They start doing the math, but then the compa says:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMaaaaan this piece of crap doesn\u2019t have any battery left!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, I am watching an older man, and I hear him say quietly:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne fourth and a little bit,\u201d and he counts using the fingers on both hands.<\/p>\n<p>Suddenly he looks up at me:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDone, compa,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat!?\u201d I reply.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes, I have the number. For a two-story building, 19 meters by 7 meters wide, that is 19\u00d77, we\u2019ll need: 2000 cement blocks, 50 half metal rods, 400 metal rods of three-eights length, 60 sacks of lime, 520 sacks of cement, 100 kilograms of mooring wire, 400 kilos of wire rod, and 84 sheets of galvanized metal 3 meters in length.<\/p>\n<p>Another compa interrupts and says, \u201cWhy don\u2019t we just tell them the total cost for these two-story buildings?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAgreed,\u201d says another.<\/p>\n<p>And then a chorus of voices, \u201cAgreed!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The total comes to $200,209 [Mexican pesos]. Two hundred thousand two hundred nine pesos.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom floor should be for the children\u2019s school, and the top for the clinic.<\/p>\n<p>This is in order to use the space well.<\/p>\n<p>This is only for the buildings. That\u2019s not counting the health equipment, the thermometer, baumanometer, auriscope, etc., and also the medicine.<\/p>\n<p>The meeting ends.<\/p>\n<p>Well compas of the Sixth, that is what I wanted to tell you. You see if you are able to gather any money together.<\/p>\n<p>From the mountains of the Mexican Southeast.<\/p>\n<p>Subcomandante Insurgente Mois\u00e9s.<br \/>\nMexico, June 2014.<br \/>\nIn the twentieth year of the war against oblivion.<!--:--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>EJ\u00c9RCITO ZAPATISTA DE LIBERACI\u00d3N NACIONAL. M\u00c9XICO. Junio del 2014. Para: La Sexta en M\u00e9xico y el Mundo. Compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros de la Sexta de M\u00e9xico y del mundo. Hermanas y hermanos de M\u00e9xico y del mundo. 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