{"id":26714,"date":"2018-04-21T09:22:45","date_gmt":"2018-04-21T14:22:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=26714"},"modified":"2018-05-10T22:00:16","modified_gmt":"2018-05-11T03:00:16","slug":"juntxs-ante-el-colapso-dia-6-conversatorio-miradas-escuchas-palabras-prohibido-pensar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=26714","title":{"rendered":"\u00bfJuntxs ante el colapso? \u2013 D\u00eda 6, Conversatorio \u201cMiradas, escuchas, palabras: \u00bfprohibido pensar?\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div class=\"slider js_slider\">\n\t                <div class=\"frame js_frame\">\n\t                    <ul class=\"slides js_slides\"><li class=\"js_slide\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"667\" src=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/IMG_0202.jpg\" class=\"attachment- size-\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/IMG_0202.jpg 1000w, 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alguien a\u00fan cre\u00eda que la tormenta era apenas una met\u00e1fora, una muy filosa y oscura pero soportable, esta tarde los compas Zapatistas la volvieron expl\u00edcita al traer al Conversatorio la valoraci\u00f3n de Carlos Taibo en su libro \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?page_id=20465\">Colapso. Capitalismo terminal, transici\u00f3n ecosocial, ecofascismo<\/a>\u201d. Si ya estamos en camino a un colapso terminal de la humanidad \u2013es decir que no tenemos ya la posibilidad de frenar o modificar la suma apocal\u00edptica de todas nuestras crisis\u2013 lo que sigue es organizarse para formar parte del probablemente estrecho margen de sobrevivientes de la segunda mitad de este siglo. A diferencia de los productores del Colapso, que saben de \u00e9l hace mucho y han decidido acelerar la reducci\u00f3n del margen de sobrevivientes, Cristina Rivera Garza, Jorge Alonso, Irene Tello, M\u00f3nica Meltis y Carlos Mendoza compartieron esta tarde sus experiencias para intentar esquivar el abismo: articulando narrativas y procesos de trabajo que m\u00e1s bien reaccionan ante el horror fortaleciendo el de por s\u00ed humilde, espiritual y poderoso impulso de proteger a lxs compa\u00f1erxs de viaje. \u201cNo nos estamos preparando para un per\u00edodo electoral sino para el apocalipsis. No es lo mismo organizarse para una elecci\u00f3n, para tener un voto, que para hacer frente a un mundo como el que ustedes han narrado. A nosotros lo que nos interesa es que la gente viva. Si es antizapatista no hay pedo pero que viva\u201d, agregaron los zapatistas en una de sus comparticiones m\u00e1s de coraz\u00f3n, directas y sinceras de los \u00faltimos encuentros.<\/p>\n<p>Escucha\/descarga los audios aqu\u00ed:<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-playlist wp-audio-playlist wp-playlist-light\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-current-item\"><\/div>\n\t\t<audio controls=\"controls\" preload=\"none\" width=\"640\"\n\t\t\t><\/audio>\n\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-next\"><\/div>\n\t<div class=\"wp-playlist-prev\"><\/div>\n\t<noscript>\n\t<ol>\n\t\t<li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_JorgeAlonso.mp3'>Jorge Alonso<\/a><\/li><li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_CristinaRiveraGarza.mp3'>Cristina Rivera Garza<\/a><\/li><li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_CarlosMendoza.mp3'>Carlos Mendoza<\/a><\/li><li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_JacoboDayan.mp3'>Jacobo Day\u00e1n<\/a><\/li><li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_MonicaMeltis.mp3'>M\u00f3nica Meltis<\/a><\/li><li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_IreneTello.mp3'>Irene Tello<\/a><\/li><li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_SupGaleano1.mp3'>Subcomandante Galeano (1a invertenci\u00f3n)<\/a><\/li><li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_RondaRespuestas.mp3'>Di\u00e1logo entre participantes<\/a><\/li><li><a href='https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_SupGaleano2.mp3'>Subcomandante Galeano (2a invertenci\u00f3n)<\/a><\/li>\t<\/ol>\n\t<\/noscript>\n\t<script type=\"application\/json\" class=\"wp-playlist-script\">{\"type\":\"audio\",\"tracklist\":true,\"tracknumbers\":true,\"images\":true,\"artists\":false,\"tracks\":[{\"src\":\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Miradas2004_JorgeAlonso.mp3\",\"type\":\"audio\/mpeg\",\"title\":\"Jorge Alonso\",\"caption\":\"Jorge Alonso\",\"description\":\"\\\"Miradas2004_JorgeAlonso\\\". 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