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<\/a><\/h4>\nPalabras del Subcomandante Insurgente Mois\u00e9s<\/h4>\nSeminario “Los muros del capital, las grietas de la izquierda
\nCideci \/ Universidad de la Tierra Chiapas
\n15 de abril de 2017<\/h4>\n
\nCideci \/ Universidad de la Tierra Chiapas
\n15 de abril de 2017<\/h4>\n
[podcast]https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/Audios\/rzchiapas\/supmoisesdiacuatro.mp3[\/podcast]<\/p>\n
Buenas noches.<\/p>\n
Gracias compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros de M\u00e9xico y del mundo.<\/p>\n
Gracias hermanas y hermanos de M\u00e9xico y del mundo.<\/p>\n
Gracias les digo porque hicieron un gran esfuerzo por escucharnos estos d\u00edas y esfuerzo por llegar y esfuerzo por regresar, no es cualquier cosa eso.<\/p>\n
Dijimos muchas palabras los ponentes, les toca cernir para ver cu\u00e1l le sirve para organizarse, trabajar y luchar, haya donde viven.<\/p>\n
S\u00f3lo les insistimos, El mundo los van a convertir, en sus fincas, el capitalismo.<\/p>\n
Eso, nos est\u00e1 diciendo, que tenemos que organizarnos, luchar y trabajar nosotras y nosotros los pobres en el mundo.<\/p>\n
Ya vimos, ya entendimos y ya dijimos tantas y tantas veces, como nos tienen el capitalismo, haya en nuestros pueblos donde vivimos cadi quien, o sea en el pa\u00eds donde vivimos, o sea en el continente donde somos.<\/p>\n
Hoy descubrimos, lo que ten\u00edan oculto el capitalismo de lo que nos van a hacer, y hasta descubrimos el nombre, que ya tienen de como se llamar\u00e1 y dicen \u201cel mundo es m\u00ed finca\u201d y en \u00e9l hay y la tengo y la tendr\u00e9 mis acasillad@s.<\/p>\n
Esto nos est\u00e1 diciendo, que deber\u00edamos ver y pensar ya de organizarnos, trabajar y luchar como mundo que somos los pobres, como guardianas y guardianes del mundo que somos y decirle, No el capitalismo<\/p>\n
Pensemos como organizarse, como luchar y trabajar en el mundo, que quieren ser su finca el capitalismo, se ve que ya no tenemos que luchar s\u00f3lo para un pa\u00eds, sino en el mundo. Es lo que estuvimos escuchando aqu\u00ed, es lo que estuvimos diciendo aqu\u00ed, que lo que pasa en M\u00e9xico y lo que les pasa en los otros pa\u00edses de am\u00e9rica y estamos seguros que as\u00ed esta los otros continentes, porque es el mismo capitalismo que est\u00e1 chingando ah\u00ed, no se necesita ser demasiado experto para saber si en los otros continentes explotan ah\u00ed el capitalismo, creemos que s\u00ed debemos ser expertos de comodestruir el capitalismo para que ya dejemos que vuelva a renacer esas maldades.<\/p>\n
Todas y todos debemos estudiar, pero no solo debemos quedar en estudio, sino practicar lo que entendimos en el estudio, estudiar las historias para mejorar en la pr\u00e1ctica, para avanzar.<\/p>\n
El estudio no s\u00f3lo en los libros que es bueno, tambi\u00e9n es estudio, el pensar de c\u00f3mo est\u00e1 la vida o de pensar de c\u00f3mo ser\u00e1 hacer un bien, o de como estuvo tan mal la vida y porque as\u00ed y como deber\u00eda ser.<\/p>\n
Todos decimos la palabra, revoluci\u00f3n o cambio, ese cambio o revoluci\u00f3n debe ser para todas y todos los hombres y mujeres del mundo, no es revoluci\u00f3n o cambio si solo para unos cuantos hombres y mujeres, es como la justicia, la democracia y la libertada es para todos y todas y para unos cuantos, pues as\u00ed en todo.<\/p>\n
Hoy, nos est\u00e1 llamando los compa\u00f1eros y compa\u00f1eras del Congreso Nacional Ind\u00edgena, a organizarnos para luchar del campo y la ciudad contra el capitalismo.<\/p>\n
No nos est\u00e1 llamando de buscar voto, nos est\u00e1n llamando, nos est\u00e1n buscando losmillones de pobres del campo y de la ciudad para organizarnos y destruir al capitalismo en el mundo<\/p>\n
As\u00ed que no se preocupen compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros, votes o no votes, no es el problema, el problema se llama capitalismo, se llama explotaci\u00f3n en que nos tienen y padecemos.<\/p>\n
Lo que queremos y quieren los compa\u00f1eros y compa\u00f1eras del Congreso Nacional Ind\u00edgena, es que en todo M\u00e9xico estemos organizados campo y la ciudad y anticapitalistas.<\/p>\n
No hay otro camino, el remedio de estas maldades que padecemos por culpa del capitalismo. Es organizarnos, eso se trata del recorrido, de llamado candidata y consejo ind\u00edgena de gobierno, es como una comisi\u00f3n que va ser su gira nacional, para llamarnos a ORGANIZARNOS.<\/p>\n
A escuchar directamente a las mujeres y hombres del campo y de la ciudad, o sea ese consejo ind\u00edgena de gobierno y la candidata, son nuestros huidos, y nuestros ojos, para qu\u00e9, pues es para que nos digan c\u00f3mo no han podido resolver esas necesidades el mal sistema capitalista hecho gobierno en su viva voz de los pueblos y los pueblos saben c\u00f3mo debe ser resuelto esas necesidades, pero no hay pueblo organizado que enfrente eso, porque en este sistema en que nos tienen, no somos tomados en cuenta. Es por eso nos tenemos que organizarnos, sin que nadie les pedimos permiso.<\/p>\n
As\u00ed como no nos pidieron permiso si nos van a explotar, pues as\u00ed no hay por qu\u00e9 vamos a pedir permiso de c\u00f3mo vamos a organizarnos en contra de esa explotaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n
Nosotras y nosotros nos vamos a dirigirnos, no permitamos que alguien nos dirija, escuchamos propuestas y no que nos impongan, eso ya no, ya lo vivimos, pueblo manda y gobierno obedece, decimos nosotras y nosotros los zapatistas.<\/p>\n
Es una oportunidad m\u00e1s para escucharnos, donde juntemos la rabia digna y la sabidur\u00eda y la inteligencia, nosotras y nosotros el pueblo de M\u00e9xico del campo y la ciudad, y marquemos nosotras y nosotros nuestro camino en donde debe de ir nuestro destino, y no que el capitalismo nos marque el camino donde debemos caminar y por donde va nuestro destino, que ya tanto hemos hablado ya de esas maldades.<\/p>\n
De esto se trata el esfuerzo del Congreso Nacional Indigena, es por eso sale la candidata y el concejo ind\u00edgena de gobierno. No de buscar voto, ya la sabemos que va ver pocos votos y de esos pocos votos todav\u00eda te hacen fraude y ellos el mal sistema lo revivir\u00e1n los muertos para que voten para que ganen ellos, \u00a1Ya basta ya eso!<\/p>\n
Estamos buscando el camino de nuestro destino, eso es el encargo que la tienen las compa\u00f1eras y los compa\u00f1eros del consejo ind\u00edgena de gobierno y la vocera candidata independiente, tejer la organizaci\u00f3n de los pueblos originarios, tejer la decisi\u00f3n de eso pueblos. Tambi\u00e9n los no ind\u00edgenas.<\/p>\n
El congreso Nacional Indigena y el consejo ind\u00edgena de gobierno y la vocera, siempre debe dirigir su mirada hacia abajo, su o\u00eddo atentos en la de abajo, ya no ver, ni oir a all\u00e1 arriba, no vendr\u00e1 la vida ah\u00ed, solo muerte.<\/p>\n
Construyamos nosotras y nosotros el mundo donde habr\u00e1 vida. Para eso hay que estar organizados y organizadas.<\/p>\n
Necesitamos organizarnos, no vamos a cansar de decirlo eso, porque solo es lo que nos queda, organizarse es lo que nos queda, con inteligencia y sabidur\u00eda, como los del campo y de la ciudad.<\/p>\n
Compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros, hermanas y hermanos de M\u00e9xico y del mundo, implica organizarse, por c\u00f3mo queremos una nueva justicia, por c\u00f3mo queremos la verdadera democracia, por c\u00f3mo debemos vivir y trabajar nuestra libertad.<\/p>\n
Implica organizaci\u00f3n por c\u00f3mo vamos a tomarnos en cuenta de c\u00f3mo vamos a hacer las nuevas leyes nacida de los pueblos.<\/p>\n
Implica organizaci\u00f3n, por c\u00f3mo vamos a hacer para lograr nuestras 13 demandas: Tierra, trabajo, alimentaci\u00f3n, Techo o vivienda, Salud, Educaci\u00f3n, informaci\u00f3n veraz, Igualdad entre mujeres y hombres, independencia, Libertad, Justicia, Democracia y Paz.<\/p>\n
Hay mucho que decir, el porque nos tenemos que organizarnos, pero las que saben m\u00e1s son las mujeres y los hombres pobres del campo y la ciudad.<\/p>\n
S\u00f3lo decimos, y les decimos tenemos que organizarnos<\/p>\n
Por todo esto, no nos resolver\u00e1 el organizar los votos, as\u00ed que votes o no votes, no es el problema.<\/p>\n
Organ\u00edzate, luche y trabaje, con resistencia y rebeld\u00eda.<\/p>\n
Organizate pueblos originarios del mundo.<\/p>\n
Organizate ciudadanos pobres.<\/p>\n
Nos organicemos mundo pobre.<\/p>\n
No se olviden eso, compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros del Congreso Nacional Ind\u00edgena.<\/p>\n
No se olviden eso, compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros del Consejo Ind\u00edgena de Gobierno.<\/p>\n
No se olvida eso, compa\u00f1era vocera candidata independiente, llamar los pueblos a organizarse en el campo y la ciudad.<\/p>\n
Gracias[:en]<\/p>\n
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<\/a><\/h4>\nClosing words by Subcomandante Insurgente Mois\u00e9s<\/h4>\nSeminario “Los muros del capital, las grietas de la izquierda
\nCideci \/ Universidad de la Tierra Chiapas
\n15 de abril de 2017<\/h4>\n
[podcast]https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/Audios\/rzchiapas\/supmoisesdiacuatro.mp3[\/podcast]<\/p>\n
Good evening.<\/p>\n
Thank you, compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros of Mexico and the world.<\/p>\n
Thank you, sisters and brothers of Mexico and the world.<\/p>\n
I thank you because you made a great effort to listen to us during these days that we have been here together, you worked hard to get here and to return home, and we know that requires significant effort.
\nWe who presented spoke a great deal, and it falls to you to sift through our words to see which will be useful to you in organizing, working, and struggling in the places where you live.<\/p>\n
We do want to insist to you that capitalism is going to turn the world into its plantations.<\/p>\n
That means we poor women and men of the world have to organize, struggle, and work.<\/p>\n
We have already seen, understood, and explained countless times what capitalism does to us in the communities where we live, in the country we live in, or on the continent we\u2019re from.<\/p>\n
Today we discovered capitalism\u2019s hidden plans for us, we even discovered the name for it\u2014they already know what they\u2019re going to call it, they say \u201cThe world is my plantation and on it I shall have my indentured slaves.\u201di<\/p>\n
This means that we poor people ought to be thinking about organizing ourselves, working and struggling as the guardians of the world that we are, and saying \u201cNO\u201d to capitalism.<\/p>\n
Let us think about how to organize ourselves, how to struggle and work in the world that capitalism wants to turn into its plantation. It\u2019s clear now that we must struggle not just for one country, but rather for the world. That\u2019s what we\u2019ve been hearing here, that\u2019s what we\u2019ve been saying here, that that\u2019s what\u2019s happening in Mexico and what\u2019s happening in the other countries in the Americas, and we\u2019re sure that it\u2019s happening on the other continents because it\u2019s the same capitalism that\u2019s fucking things up there too. One doesn\u2019t have to be too much of an expert to know whether capitalism is exploiting people on the other continents, but we think we should be experts on how to destroy capitalism so that these evils never come back again.<\/p>\n
All of us should study, but we shouldn\u2019t stop at study; rather we should practice what we have understood through study, studying history to improve our practice, to advance.<\/p>\n
And study is not just in books, which are good; study is also thinking about what life is like and what it would be like to do something good, or about how bad life used to be and why and how it should be instead.<\/p>\n
We all use the word \u201crevolution\u201d or \u201cchange\u201d: that change or revolution should be for all the women and men of the world; it\u2019s not revolution or change if it\u2019s for only a few men and women. It\u2019s like justice, democracy and freedom are for everyone, just like with everything.<\/p>\n
Today,the compa\u00f1eros and compa\u00f1eras of the National Indigenous Congress are calling on us to organize ourselves to struggle from the countryside and the city against capitalism.<\/p>\n
The CNI is not calling on us to seek votes; they are seeking and calling on the millions of poor people in the countryside and the city to organize ourselves and destroy capitalism in the world.<\/p>\n
So don\u2019t worry, compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros, whether you vote or not is not the problem; the problem is called capitalism, it\u2019s the exploitation they subject us to, and which we suffer.<\/p>\n
What we want, and what the compa\u00f1eros from the National Indigenous Congress want, is for all of Mexico, countryside and city, to be organized against capitalism.<\/p>\n
There\u2019s no other way, no other remedy for the suffering caused by capitalism. Organizing ourselves: that\u2019s what the journey of the candidate and the Indigenous Governing Council is about; it\u2019s like a commission that\u2019s going to do a national tour to call on us to GET ORGANIZED.<\/p>\n
They will listen directly to the women and men of the countryside and the city; that is, the Indigenous Governing Council and the candidate are our eyes and ears so they can tell us, in the living voice of the peoples, how the bad capitalist system-cum-government has not been able to resolve the peoples\u2019 needs, and the peoples know how those needs should be resolved. But there is no organized people that faces that issue, because in this system we are not taken into account. That\u2019s why we have to organize ourselves, without asking anybody for permission.<\/p>\n
Just as they didn\u2019t ask permission to exploit us, there\u2019s no reason for us to ask permission for how we\u2019re going to organize ourselves against that exploitation.<\/p>\n
We are going to direct our own affairs, let\u2019s not let anyone else rule us; we\u2019ll listen to proposals but not let them be imposed on us, not anymore, we\u2019ve already lived through that. The people rule and the government obeys, as we Zapatistas say.<\/p>\n
This is another opportunity to listen to each other, for the people of Mexico from the countryside and the city to put our dignified rage, wisdom, and intelligence together in order to mark the path of our destiny, instead of capitalism marking the path we should walk and where our destiny will go\u2014those evils we have talked so much about.<\/p>\n
That\u2019s what the National Indigenous Congress\u2019s effort is about, and that is why the candidata and the Indigenous Governing Council will make a tour. It\u2019s not to win votes; we already know that there will be few votes and that they\u2019ll still defraud us out of those few votes, and that the bad system will revive the dead to vote in its favor. Enough of that already!<\/p>\n
We are seeking the path of our destiny. That\u2019s the task of the compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros of the Indigenous Governing Council and of the independent candidate-spokeswoman: to weave the organization of the originary peoples, to weave the decision of those peoples. The non-indigenous, too.<\/p>\n
The National Indigenous Congress, the Indigenous Governing Council and the spokeswoman should always direct their gaze below; their ear should always be attentive to the sounds of below; not looking and not listening up above anymore\u2014life will not come from there, only death.<\/p>\n
Let us construct the world where there will be life. But for that, it is necessary to be organized. We need to organize ourselves, we\u2019re not going to get tired of saying it because that\u2019s all we have left\u2014organizing ourselves is all we have left, with intelligence and wisdom, from the countryside and the city.<\/p>\n
Compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros, sisters and brothers from Mexico and the world, this means organizing ourselves around the new justice we want, for the true democracy we want, for how we want to live and create our freedom.<\/p>\n
It implies the organization of how we\u2019re going to take each other into account in making new laws born of the peoples.<\/p>\n
It means organzing how we\u2019re going to achieve our thirteen demands: land, work, food, housing, health, education, true information, equality between women and men, freedom, justice, democracy, and peace.
\nThere\u2019s a lot to say about why we have to get organized, but those who know the most are the poor women and men of the countryside and the city.<\/p>\n
We\u2019re saying that we have to get organized.<\/p>\n
This is why just organizing votes won\u2019t solve the problem; so whether or not you vote is not the problem.<\/p>\n
Get organized, struggle and work, with resistance and rebellion.<\/p>\n
Organize yourselves, originary peoples of the world.<\/p>\n
Organize yourselves, poor people of the cities.<\/p>\n
Let\u2019s organize ourselves, poor people of the world.<\/p>\n
Don\u2019t forget that, compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros of the National Indigenous Congress.<\/p>\n
Don\u2019t forget that, compa\u00f1eras and compa\u00f1eros of the Indigenous Governing Council.<\/p>\n
Don\u2019t forget, compa\u00f1era spokeswoman\u2014independent candidate, to call upon the peoples to organize themselves in the countryside and the city.<\/p>\n
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Seminario “Los muros del capital, las grietas de la izquierda
\nCideci \/ Universidad de la Tierra Chiapas
\n15 de abril de 2017<\/h4>\n
\nWe who presented spoke a great deal, and it falls to you to sift through our words to see which will be useful to you in organizing, working, and struggling in the places where you live.<\/p>\n
\nThere\u2019s a lot to say about why we have to get organized, but those who know the most are the poor women and men of the countryside and the city.<\/p>\n