{"id":19856,"date":"2016-12-28T05:52:47","date_gmt":"2016-12-28T11:52:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=19856"},"modified":"2016-12-29T12:17:29","modified_gmt":"2016-12-29T18:17:29","slug":"ls-zapatistas-y-las-conciencias-por-la-humanidad-dia-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=19856","title":{"rendered":"[:es]L@s zapatistas y las ConCiencias por la Humanidad (d\u00eda 2)[:]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[:es]<\/p>\n<h5 style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Elis-Monroy-9.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-19859\" src=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Elis-Monroy-9-350x233.jpg\" alt=\"segundo-dia-conciencias-elis-monroy-9\" width=\"350\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Elis-Monroy-9-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Elis-Monroy-9-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Elis-Monroy-9.jpg 1070w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><\/h5>\n<h5>Texto: Ra\u00fal Romero @cancerbero_mx<br \/>\nFotograf\u00eda: Dante Saucedo y Elis Monroy<\/h5>\n<p>Durante el segundo d\u00eda del encuentro convocado por el EZLN, se llevaron a cabo conferencias, talleres y pl\u00e1ticas de divulgaci\u00f3n cient\u00edfica en las que zapatistas, integrantes de pueblos originarios y miembros de la sociedad civil escucharon y cuestionaron a cient\u00edfic@s de distintos pa\u00edses.<\/p>\n<p>Por la ma\u00f1ana, pasadas las 10 horas, el d\u00eda arranco con una serie de conferencias que inauguro el f\u00edsico Alejo Stark, quien mostr\u00f3, a trav\u00e9s de la comparaci\u00f3n entre la energ\u00eda obscura y las teor\u00edas del fin de la historia, como la producci\u00f3n del conocimiento cient\u00edfico est\u00e1 relacionada con el sistema social dominante, en la era actual con el capitalismo.<\/p>\n<p>Por su parte, la bi\u00f3loga Tatiana Fiordelisio narr\u00f3 c\u00f3mo las ciencias han sido utilizadas como armas de guerra, de genocidio y de ecocidio. Para ejemplificar esta afirmaci\u00f3n, recurri\u00f3 a la historia del <em>agente naranja <\/em>\u2013utilizado durante la guerra en Vietnam<em>\u2013 <\/em>y a la utilizaci\u00f3n de energ\u00edas f\u00f3siles y sus repercusiones en el planeta tierra. Fiordelisio puso \u00e9nfasis en la relaci\u00f3n entre ciencia y desarrollo social y se\u00f1al\u00f3 que\u00a0\u00abla ciencia es la historia y viceversa\u00bb. La bi\u00f3loga culmin\u00f3 su participaci\u00f3n llamando a impulsar una otra ciencia, una <em>ciencia zapatista<\/em>, comprometida con la humanidad y con la construcci\u00f3n de un mundo mejor.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Despu\u00e9s, vino la participaci\u00f3n del especialista en ingenier\u00eda en energ\u00eda Luis Fernando Santis Espinosa quien hizo una rotunda cr\u00edtica al Sistema Nacional de Investigadores (SNI) y al Consejo Nacional de Ciencia y Tecnolog\u00eda (CONACYT). Se\u00f1al\u00f3 que \u00fanicamente han engordado \u00ablos bolsillos de unos cuantos\u00bb y han limitado el desarrollo de la ciencia al imponer criterios de evaluaci\u00f3n en los que se privilegia la producci\u00f3n de art\u00edculos y no la generaci\u00f3n de innovaciones cient\u00edficas que beneficien a la sociedad.<\/p>\n<p>Luego de las mesas vinieron las pl\u00e1ticas de divulgaci\u00f3n y el taller. En la pl\u00e1tica \u00abPotencial y aplicaciones de la inteligencia artificial\u00bb, a cargo de Jerome Leboeuf, se plantearon las tendencias actuales de los sistemas de informaci\u00f3n y de inteligencia artificial como grandes acumuladores de informaci\u00f3n, vigilancia y control. En particular, se enfatizaron los peligros que estas tecnolog\u00edas implican al estar en manos del gran capital y de los sistemas de seguridad de los Estados.<\/p>\n<p>En otra de las pl\u00e1ticas, \u00abQu\u00e9 son los mut\u00e1genos y d\u00f3nde est\u00e1n\u00bb, impartida por la doctora Patricia Ramos, se comparti\u00f3 que los mut\u00e1genos son sustancias que tienen la capacidad de modificar el ADN de las c\u00e9lulas y estos pueden ser desde los rayos solares, qu\u00edmicos utilizados por las mineras o herbicidas. La platica se enfoc\u00f3 en la utilizaci\u00f3n y graves consecuencias de uno de estos mut\u00e1genos, el Glisofato, utilizado por Monsanto en la producci\u00f3n de semillas transg\u00e9nicas.<\/p>\n<p>Igualmente, se imparti\u00f3 la platica \u00abde qu\u00e9 est\u00e1n hechas las estrellas\u00bb a cargo del doctor Marco Antonio S\u00e1nchez Ramos y el taller \u00abRob\u00f3tica para encapuchados\u00bb impartido por l@s ingenier@s Atenea Mart\u00ednez y Manuel Alejandro Lara.<\/p>\n<div class=\"tiled-gallery type-rectangular\" data-original-width=\"1070\" data-carousel-extra=\"{&quot;blog_id&quot;:1,&quot;permalink&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/subversiones.org\\\/archivos\\\/127253&quot;,&quot;likes_blog_id&quot;:54129768}\">\n<div class=\"gallery-row\" data-original-width=\"1070\" data-original-height=\"477\">\n<div class=\"gallery-group images-1\" data-original-width=\"714\" data-original-height=\"477\">\n<div class=\"tiled-gallery-item tiled-gallery-item-large\"><a class=\"image_link\" href=\"http:\/\/subversiones.org\/segundo-dia-conciencias-dante-saucedo-4\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. 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Dante Saucedo (3)\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-3.jpg?fit=300%2C200\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-3.jpg?fit=1024%2C683\" data-original-width=\"352\" data-original-height=\"235\" \/> <\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-row\" data-original-width=\"1070\" data-original-height=\"180\">\n<div class=\"gallery-group images-1\" data-original-width=\"267\" data-original-height=\"180\">\n<div class=\"tiled-gallery-item tiled-gallery-item-large\"><a class=\"image_link\" href=\"http:\/\/subversiones.org\/segundo-dia-conciencias-dante-saucedo-2\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. 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Dante Saucedo (2)\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-2.jpg?fit=300%2C200\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-2.jpg?fit=1024%2C683\" data-original-width=\"263\" data-original-height=\"176\" \/> <\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-group images-1\" data-original-width=\"267\" data-original-height=\"180\">\n<div class=\"tiled-gallery-item tiled-gallery-item-large\"><a class=\"image_link\" href=\"http:\/\/subversiones.org\/segundo-dia-conciencias-dante-saucedo\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. Dante Saucedo\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d%C3%ADa-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo.jpg?resize=263%2C176\" alt=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. 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Dante Saucedo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo.jpg?fit=300%2C200\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo.jpg?fit=1024%2C683\" data-original-width=\"263\" data-original-height=\"176\" \/> <\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-group images-1\" data-original-width=\"268\" data-original-height=\"180\">\n<div class=\"tiled-gallery-item tiled-gallery-item-large\"><a class=\"image_link\" href=\"http:\/\/subversiones.org\/segundo-dia-conciencias-dante-saucedo-7\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. Dante Saucedo (7)\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d%C3%ADa-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-7.jpg?resize=264%2C176\" alt=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. 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Dante Saucedo (7)\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-7.jpg?fit=300%2C200\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-7.jpg?fit=1024%2C683\" data-original-width=\"264\" data-original-height=\"176\" \/> <\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"gallery-group images-1\" data-original-width=\"268\" data-original-height=\"180\">\n<div class=\"tiled-gallery-item tiled-gallery-item-large\"><a class=\"image_link\" href=\"http:\/\/subversiones.org\/segundo-dia-conciencias-dante-saucedo-6\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. Dante Saucedo (6)\" src=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d%C3%ADa-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-6.jpg?resize=264%2C176\" alt=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. Dante Saucedo (6)\" width=\"264\" height=\"176\" data-attachment-id=\"127236\" data-orig-file=\"http:\/\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-6.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1080,720\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5.6&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D3400&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1482868493&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;55&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;3200&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0333333333333&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. Dante Saucedo (6)\" data-image-description=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-6.jpg?fit=300%2C200\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/subversiones.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Segundo-d\u00eda-ConCiencias.-Dante-Saucedo-6.jpg?fit=1024%2C683\" data-original-width=\"264\" data-original-height=\"176\" \/> <\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Por la tarde, se llevaron a cabo otras cuatro pl\u00e1ticas de divulgaci\u00f3n: \u00abNuestro lugar en el cosmos. Qu\u00e9 nos dice la astrof\u00edsica\u00bb impartido por la doctora Mar\u00eda Alejandra Jim\u00e9nez Z\u00fa\u00f1iga, \u00abConectividad en grafos\u00bb impartido por la matem\u00e1tica Florencia Cubria, \u00abGravedad y magnetismo: fuerzas determinantes de nuestro mundo\u00bb impartido por la maestra Ver\u00f3nica L\u00f3pez Delgado y \u00abEl que espera desespera (tecnolog\u00eda de alimentos)\u00bb presentada por la maestra Karla Aguilar Lara. Para terminar el d\u00eda, se llev\u00f3 a cabo la cuarta sesi\u00f3n general en el auditorio del CIDECI, en la que participaron la Dra. Kristen Vogeler con la charla \u00abThoughts on the relation betweeen science and customs\u00bb, \u00a0la Dra. Mariana Ben\u00edtez qui\u00e9n present\u00f3 \u00abAlgunas reflexiones sobre la ciencia desde el cub\u00edculo de una bi\u00f3loga del desarrollo\u00bb, el doctor Claudio Mart\u00ednez Debat con la pl\u00e1tica \u00abBiolog\u00eda y biotecnolog\u00eda \u00bfal servicio de qui\u00e9n?\u00bb y cerrando el d\u00eda, el Alquimista Sub Galeano relato por qu\u00e9 <a href=\"http:\/\/enlacezapatista.ezln.org.mx\/2016\/12\/27\/la-culpa-es-de-la-flor\/\">\u00abLa culpa es de la flor\u00bb<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>En su intervenci\u00f3n, Galeano dijo que l@s zapatistas aspiraban a que este encuentro fuera el inicio de una relaci\u00f3n estable y duradera con la comunidad cient\u00edfica, pues es necesaria para la lucha por la liberaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>En estos primeros dos d\u00edas del encuentro, parece haber coincidencia sobre varios puntos: 1) la falsa \u00abneutralidad\u00bb de la ciencia, pues \u00e9sta puede ser usada para dominar y explotar (la ciencia capitalista) o para contribuir a la lucha por la emancipaci\u00f3n y contra el capitalismo (la otra ciencia, la <em>ciencia zapatista<\/em>), 2) la necesidad de una ciencia comprometida con el bien de la humanidad y con el planeta, 3) la tarea de combatir a las pseudociencias y anticiencias y 4) la importancia de fomentar la producci\u00f3n de conocimientos cient\u00edficos desde los pueblos y para los pueblos.<\/p>\n<div class=\"tiled-gallery type-rectangular\" data-original-width=\"1070\" data-carousel-extra=\"{&quot;blog_id&quot;:1,&quot;permalink&quot;:&quot;http:\\\/\\\/subversiones.org\\\/archivos\\\/127253&quot;,&quot;likes_blog_id&quot;:54129768}\">\n<div class=\"gallery-row\" data-original-width=\"1070\" data-original-height=\"477\">\n<div class=\"gallery-group images-1\" data-original-width=\"714\" data-original-height=\"477\">\n<div class=\"tiled-gallery-item tiled-gallery-item-large\"><a class=\"image_link\" href=\"http:\/\/subversiones.org\/segundo-dia-conciencias-elis-monroy-8\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Segundo d\u00eda ConCiencias. 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