{"id":18203,"date":"2016-08-04T07:13:13","date_gmt":"2016-08-04T12:13:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=18203"},"modified":"2016-08-11T08:25:06","modified_gmt":"2016-08-11T13:25:06","slug":"el-arte-que-no-se-ve-ni-se-escucha","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=18203","title":{"rendered":"[:es]EZLN: EL ARTE QUE NO SE VE, NI SE ESCUCHA.[:en]The Art that is Neither Seen nor Heard[:]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[:es]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-18014 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992-350x233.jpg\" alt=\"_MG_8992\" width=\"350\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>EL ARTE QUE NO SE VE, NI SE ESCUCHA.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>\u00a0(Nota: los siguientes son los apuntes del Subcomandante Insurgente Mois\u00e9s para las palabras de cierre de la participaci\u00f3n zapatista en el CompArte, en el caracol de Oventik, el pasado de 29 de julio del 2016.\u00a0 La amenaza de lluvia y la premura del tiempo, no permitieron que el compa\u00f1ero desarrollara m\u00e1s algunos puntos e hizo que dejara pendientes otros.\u00a0 A continuaci\u00f3n, se presenta la versi\u00f3n que originalmente ser\u00eda, en su voz, nuestra palabra zapatista).<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>EJ\u00c9RCITO ZAPATISTA DE LIBERACI\u00d3N NACIONAL<br \/>\nM\u00c9XICO.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>29 de Julio del 2016.<\/p>\n<p>Artistas de M\u00e9xico y el mundo:<br \/>\nCompas de la Sexta Nacional e Internacional:<br \/>\nHermanas, hermanos y <strong><em>hermanoas<\/em><\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>Para nosotras, nosotros, zapatistas el arte se estudia creando muchas imaginaciones, leyendo en la mirada, estudiando en la escucha, practicando.<\/p>\n<p>Poner en la pr\u00e1ctica, o sea haci\u00e9ndolo, se va llegar a ver el resultado de la ciencia y el arte de imaginaci\u00f3n, de la creatividad.<\/p>\n<p>Hay ciencia y arte que se necesitan de inmediato, de c\u00f3mo imaginarlo para hacerlo.<\/p>\n<p>Hay ciencia y arte que pueden ser de mediano plazo.<\/p>\n<p>Y hay ciencia y arte de largo plazo que se va ir mejorando a lo largo del tiempo.<\/p>\n<p>Por ejemplo: qu\u00e9 hacer peque\u00f1ito sobre c\u00f3mo deber\u00e1 ser un mundo nuevo. \u00a0Esto requiere meterse mucho muy profundo de la ciencia y el arte de imaginaci\u00f3n, de la mirada, de la escucha y de la creatividad, paciencia, cuidado, de c\u00f3mo ir construyendo y tantas otras cosas que habr\u00e1 que tomar en cuenta.<\/p>\n<p>Porque lo que queremos, o lo que pensamos, es un mundo nuevo, o un sistema nuevo. No copia del que ya hay o darle un agregado a lo que ya hay.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Esto es el problema que decimos, porque no hay libro, manual que nos diga c\u00f3mo.\u00a0 Ese libro o manual, todav\u00eda no est\u00e1 escrito, est\u00e1 todav\u00eda en los cerebros con imaginaci\u00f3n, en los ojos listos con mirada de algo nuevo que se quiere ver, en los o\u00eddos muy atentos para captar lo nuevo que se quiere.<\/p>\n<p>Requiere de mucha sabidur\u00eda e inteligencia, de buena interpretaci\u00f3n de muchas de las palabras, pensamientos.<\/p>\n<p>As\u00ed lo decimos, porque as\u00ed fue y as\u00ed seguir\u00e1 el mejoramiento de nuestra autonom\u00eda.<\/p>\n<p>Fue construido por miles de mujeres y de hombres zapatistas, con ciencia y arte, que por ahora ya se puede ver en las 5 zonas de los caracoles.<\/p>\n<p>El arte que los estamos mostrando, nuestras compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros, crudamente naci\u00f3 y sali\u00f3 de sus mentes, ellas y ellos las decidieron de c\u00f3mo las van a presentar, sobre c\u00f3mo han trabajado como zapatistas y aut\u00f3nomos, con su resistencia y su ser rebeldes.<\/p>\n<p>Todo fue una cadena de arte, el pensar qu\u00e9 es lo que van a presentar, si es bailable, canci\u00f3n, poes\u00eda, escultura, obra de teatro, cer\u00e1mica. Luego las palabras, las ideas de c\u00f3mo se van a hacer los movimientos, luego de donde van a sacar los gastos para sus concentraciones, de sus ensayos, porque son colectivos de pueblo, de regi\u00f3n, de municipios y de zona.<\/p>\n<p>Hubo 3 selecciones, los pueblos se re\u00fanen en regiones, ah\u00ed la primera selecci\u00f3n; despu\u00e9s las regiones se re\u00fanen como municipio aut\u00f3nomo para la segunda selecci\u00f3n; y los municipios se re\u00fanen en zona y ah\u00ed la \u00faltima selecci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Les llev\u00f3 meses para sus preparaciones.<\/p>\n<p>Para los pueblos de miles de mujeres y hombres de zapatistas, fue un repasar lo que somos, s\u00f3lo que ya de otra manera, ya no de pl\u00e1tica o bla, bla, bla, sino con la t\u00e9cnica de Arte, todo los hizo que se movieran, ni\u00f1@s, j\u00f3venas y j\u00f3venes, padres y madres, y abuel@s.<\/p>\n<p>Lo que repasaron en forma art\u00edstica, de forma en arte l@s compa\u00f1er@s zapatistas fue su resistencia y su rebeld\u00eda, su gobierno aut\u00f3nomo de la Junta de Buen Gobierno, sus MAREZ (Municipios Aut\u00f3nomos Rebeldes Zapatistas), sus autoridades locales (comisariadas, comisariados, agentas y agentes), su sistema de salud aut\u00f3noma, su sistema de educaci\u00f3n aut\u00f3noma, sus radio emisoras aut\u00f3nomas, sus 7 principios del mandar obedeciendo en sus nuevo sistema de gobernar aut\u00f3nomo, su democracia como pueblos, su justicia, su libertad.<\/p>\n<p>Su defensa de la madre tierra y su trabajar colectivo en la madre tierra. Con todo esto estar\u00e1 naciendo nuevas generaciones de <strong><em>jovenas<\/em><\/strong> y j\u00f3venes, para el futuro zapatista.<\/p>\n<p>Esto que les presentamos, compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros de la sexta nacional e internacional, hermanas y hermanos de M\u00e9xico y del mundo, fue una partecita de l@s compa\u00f1er@s que iban a participar.\u00a0 Un d\u00eda nos presentaremos con ustedes, pero que no va dar el tiempo, porque si nos venimos todas y todos nos va a llevar m\u00e1s del mes presentando, as\u00ed que habr\u00e1 arte y ciencia de c\u00f3mo la vamos a hacer la presentaci\u00f3n un d\u00eda.\u00a0 Porque la m\u00e1s maravillosa de las artes es el apoyo colectivo.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">-*-<\/p>\n<p>Compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros de la sexta nacional e internacional.<\/p>\n<p>Hermanas y hermanos de M\u00e9xico y del mundo.<\/p>\n<p>La tormenta y la hidra del monstruo capitalista nos quieren impedir que nos veamos, pero hacemos todo un esfuerzo y ahora aqu\u00ed nos estamos vi\u00e9ndonos.<\/p>\n<p>Much\u00edsimas artes les quieren demostrar las compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros de los miles de bases de apoyo del Ej\u00e9rcito Zapatista de Liberaci\u00f3n Nacional.<\/p>\n<p>Por ahora vieron una parte y en los otros caracoles ver\u00e1n otras.\u00a0 Porque se hab\u00edan seleccionado m\u00e1s de 2 mil artistas, los seleccionados y m\u00e1s los que no pasaron, pero no es que no pasaron, sino porque no hab\u00eda paga para trasladarlos a miles de compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros artistas.<\/p>\n<p>Nuestras compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros artistas, no es su profesi\u00f3n de ser artistas, sino su profesi\u00f3n es y se llama \u201c<strong><em>Tod\u00f3logo<\/em><\/strong>\u201d porque son carpinteros, alba\u00f1iles, tiender@s, trabajan la tierra, es locutor, locutora, miliciano, miliciana, insurgenta e insurgente, autoridad aut\u00f3noma, maestr@s de la escuelita, promotor de salud o de educaci\u00f3n, y todav\u00eda se dan tiempo de ser artistas.<\/p>\n<p>Artistas de verdad en el arte de su construcci\u00f3n de un nuevo sistema de gobierno, la autonom\u00eda donde el gobierno obedece y el pueblo manda.<\/p>\n<p>Es un arte que se puede ver, estudiar, y lo tienen en la pr\u00e1ctica, que se puede conocer compartiendo.<\/p>\n<p>Pero hacen otras artes las y los compa\u00f1eros que no se conocer\u00e1, y que no se saldr\u00e1 en ning\u00fan medio de comunicaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>El arte de la solidaridad, el apoyo a los pueblos que luchan.<\/p>\n<p>Porque otra ciencia y arte que hacen las compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros bases de apoyo zapatistas, es el c\u00f3mo apoyaron su lucha de resistencia del movimiento magisterial.<\/p>\n<p>Esa ciencia y arte no se vio, pero fue como un arte de avispero c\u00f3mo se hizo y s\u00ed se vio c\u00f3mo se entreg\u00f3, o sea la entrega del apoyo alimenticio, pero hubo un arte y ciencia antes de eso.<\/p>\n<p>Va:<\/p>\n<p>Se vio que es necesario apoyar esa lucha del magisterio que est\u00e1 resistiendo la hidra y tormenta capitalista, que hab\u00edamos dicho hace un a\u00f1o.<\/p>\n<p>Luego el ver cu\u00e1l apoyo vamos a dar, primero fue nuestra palabra que los apoyamos que es justa su lucha.<\/p>\n<p>Luego c\u00f3mo apoyar para resistir donde estaban en los bloqueos y plantones, y vimos, entendimos que es la alimentaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Luego ver cu\u00e1nto podemos y, antes de eso, qu\u00e9 dir\u00e1n nuestras compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros si los apoyamos con la alimentaci\u00f3n de lo poco que tenemos del fruto de nuestros trabajos colectivos.<\/p>\n<p>Como, por ejemplo, el apoyo de alimentaci\u00f3n se vio, la entrega, los costales y eso.\u00a0 Pero lo que no se vio es la organizaci\u00f3n de la recolectada de pueblos a pueblos, la repartida de cu\u00e1nto le toca a cada pueblo, el saber cu\u00e1ntas toneladas se va lograr juntar para saber c\u00f3mo transportar. \u00a0Luego el tiempo, porque las noticias salen que el bloqueo no lo levantar\u00e1n, que ya lo van a levantar el bloqueo porque van a ser desalojados, porque est\u00e1 causando mucho da\u00f1o dicen los ricos, est\u00e1 esa presi\u00f3n porque se va a echar a perder lo que vamos a recolectar si ya no hay d\u00f3nde vamos a llevar.<\/p>\n<p>Se hicieron entones reuniones en todos lados para sacar acuerdo, listo, porque tod@s dijeron l@s compa\u00f1er@s que es justo y necesario el apoyo que hay que dar al movimiento magisterial.<\/p>\n<p>Comienzan entonces las matem\u00e1ticas, cuentas decimos nosotr@s, divisiones, repartir decimos nosotr@s de cu\u00e1ntos nos tocan a cada zona, a MAREZ, a regiones, a pueblos.<\/p>\n<p>Se empiezan a formar las comisiones de regiones para la recolecci\u00f3n y comisi\u00f3n por MAREZ y de Zona.\u00a0 Hubo algunas zonas que fallaron las comisiones, no fallo de malo, sino de bueno, porque reportaron de 2 toneladas la comisi\u00f3n y a la hora de la hora resulta que dieron los pueblos 7 toneladas m\u00e1s, que fue el caso de las bases de apoyo zapatista de la zona norte de Chiapas, del caracol de Roberto Barrios.\u00a0 Y entonces pues el Arte para resolver el problema, porque no estaba contemplado para 9 toneladas, s\u00f3lo estaba un cami\u00f3n de 3 toneladas.<\/p>\n<p>Lo que s\u00ed es un arte es el trabajo de las compa\u00f1eras, porque se les pide en cu\u00e1nto tiempo van a tener listo las 100 mil tostadas, c\u00f3mo se puede calcular si est\u00e1 en mazorca el ma\u00edz que va a ser tostada.<\/p>\n<p>Pues las compa\u00f1eras dijeron a tal hora de tal fecha va a estar lista. \u00a0Porque lo saben en cu\u00e1ntas horas se cuece el ma\u00edz, y cuantas tostadas sale de un kilo de ma\u00edz.<\/p>\n<p>Y todav\u00eda las compa\u00f1eras les ponen sabor a las tostadas, de frijolito, de sal, porque saben que es para apoyar a las maestras y maestros en plant\u00f3n y en resistencia.<\/p>\n<p>Y as\u00ed lo hicieron y est\u00e1 cumplido, y ya no se ve porque ya est\u00e1 en el est\u00f3mago, o hecho abono porque ya desecharon las compa\u00f1eras maestras, maestros.<\/p>\n<p>El trabajo colectivo, lo com\u00fan, hizo que se moviera tan f\u00e1cil, de una mano a otro, otros lo movieron en caballos, otros a pie y en la espalda, otros en carro.<\/p>\n<p>Gracias a los trabajos colectivos de compa\u00f1eras mujeres y de compa\u00f1eros.<\/p>\n<p>Todo fue un c\u00e1lculo matem\u00e1tico, desde al principio y hasta el final.<\/p>\n<p>Todo esto, todo es un gasto y la gran mayor\u00eda es de trabajos colectivos, pueblos, regiones, municipios aut\u00f3nomos y zona.\u00a0 Fruto real de nuestros trabajos como pueblos organizados de mujeres y hombres.<\/p>\n<p>Todo esto no se vio y no se sabr\u00e1 si no les contamos, y es todo un esfuerzo que hicieron nuestras compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros zapatistas bases de apoyo, porque los queremos a un pueblo que luchan con resistencia.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bfPor qu\u00e9 lo hacemos esto?\u00a0 Pues porque sabemos y entendemos c\u00f3mo es resistir una lucha y c\u00f3mo es mantener una lucha en resistencia.<\/p>\n<p>Todo un arte de imaginaci\u00f3n de los pueblos zapatistas por el c\u00f3mo hacer el apoyo, porque el \u201cresistir\u201d lo han pasado 22 a\u00f1os las compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros, y eso es de mucha experiencia y de gran importancia para esa solidaridad, es la demostraci\u00f3n de la colectividad.\u00a0 Nosotras, nosotros, zapatistas, llevamos 22 a\u00f1os de lucha en resistencia y rebeld\u00eda en contra del capitalismo, y 22 a\u00f1os de un nuevo sistema de gobernarnos donde el pueblo manda y el gobierno obedece.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>-*-<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0 Hay quien piensa que debemos salir e ir a luchar por los maestros y maestras.\u00a0 Si as\u00ed se piensa, entonces es que no se ha entendido nada.\u00a0 Porque eso quiere decir que espero que alguien venga y luche por m\u00ed.\u00a0 Las zapatistas, los zapatistas, no le pedimos a nadie que viniera a luchar por nosotras, nosotros.\u00a0 Cada lucha es de cada quien, y debemos apoyarnos mutuamente, pero no quitar el lugar de la lucha de cada quien.\u00a0 Quien lucha tiene el derecho de decidir a d\u00f3nde lleva su camino y con qui\u00e9n camina.\u00a0 Si otros se meten, entonces ya no es apoyo, sino que es suplantar.\u00a0 El apoyo es respeto y no direcci\u00f3n ni mando.\u00a0 As\u00ed como lo hemos entendido que nadie nos va a dar de comer si no trabajamos, es igual.\u00a0 Nadie nos va a liberar, sino nosotros, nosotras mismas.<\/p>\n<p>As\u00ed que a organizarnos pueblos de M\u00e9xico y del mundo, luchemos en el mundo donde vivimos para cambiarlo, como obrer@s, maestr@s, campesin@s, todas y todos los trabajadores, no esperemos que alguien vaya o llegue a luchar por nosotros.<\/p>\n<p>Ya la vivimos eso, s\u00f3lo llegan a tratar de manipularnos, a enga\u00f1arnos, a hacernos como nos tienen ahora.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>-*-<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0 El arte, hermanas y hermanos, compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros es tan importante, porque es el que da una ilustraci\u00f3n de una nueva cosa en la vida, tan diferente y que puedes comparar con lo ilustrado en la vida real, que no miente.<\/p>\n<p>Es tan poderoso el arte, porque es una vida real ya en las comunidades donde ellas y ellos mandan y su gobierno obedece, gracias al arte de la imaginaci\u00f3n y saber convertir en una nueva sociedad, en una vida com\u00fan.\u00a0 Demuestra que s\u00ed se puede otra forma de gobernarse, totalmente diferente, que s\u00ed es posible otra vida trabajando com\u00fanmente en beneficio de la misma comunidad.<\/p>\n<p>Aqu\u00ed recuerdo al compa\u00f1ero finado subcomandante Insurgente Marcos, que muchas veces nos preguntaba cuando construimos una casita, all\u00e1 en la selva, con el Comandante Tacho.\u00a0 El finado nos preguntaba \u201cestos travesa\u00f1os, \u00bfsaben para que sirven?, \u00bfme pueden explicar cient\u00edficamente para qu\u00e9?\u201d, y queremos contestar, cuando lanza otra pregunta, \u201c\u00bfes de ciencia o es de usos y costumbres?\u201d; y el comandante Tacho y yo nos miramos, y como \u00e9l est\u00e1 dirigiendo la construcci\u00f3n el comandante le toco contestar: \u201cpues as\u00ed aprend\u00ed de mi pap\u00e1, y mi pap\u00e1 aprendi\u00f3 de mi abuelo, y as\u00ed\u201d dijo el comandante Tacho.\u00a0 El difunto dijo \u201cah, entonces es por usos y costumbres, no es por un estudio cient\u00edfico de la ciencia\u201d, nos dijo el finado.\u00a0 Y entonces nos explic\u00f3 por qu\u00e9 son tan importantes las ciencias y las artes.\u00a0 Y ahora lo estamos viendo.\u00a0 Pero deja, ah\u00ed le voy a decirle, que nos garabatea o sea que nos escriba el finado, desde el espacio de donde se encuentra bajo tierra, y nos mande y se lo vamos a publicar los que estamos todav\u00eda aqu\u00ed vivos donde \u00e9l estuvo viviendo.<\/p>\n<p>As\u00ed que compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros, hermanas y hermanos. Pensamos nosotras y nosotros las y los zapatistas, que hoy m\u00e1s que nuca, se necesita el ARTE, LOS PUEBLOS ORIGINARIOS Y LO CIENTIFICO, para que podamos nacer un nuevo mundo.<\/p>\n<p>As\u00ed que compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros artistas de la sexta nacional e internacional, m\u00e9tanle muchas ganas al trabajo del arte.<\/p>\n<p>Acomp\u00e1\u00f1enos, hermanas y hermanos de M\u00e9xico y del mundo, a so\u00f1ar un arte donde el pueblo manda, para su bien y del bien del mismo pueblo.<\/p>\n<p>Gracias.<\/p>\n<p>Desde las monta\u00f1as del Sureste Mexicano.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Subcomandante Insurgente Mois\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e9xico, 29 de julio del 2016.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Canci\u00f3n \u201c<strong><em>La Capacidad de las Mujeres<\/em><\/strong>\u201d.\u00a0 Letra, m\u00fasica y coreograf\u00eda del grupo zapatista, juvenil, femenino y musical \u201cDignidad y Resistencia\u201d, bases de apoyo de la zona Altos de Chiapas.\u00a0 Cuando se presentaron en Oventik, el d\u00eda 29 en la tarde, fall\u00f3 el sonido y estaban un poco tristes.\u00a0 Entonces el d\u00eda 30, en el CIDECI, el SubMoy le pidi\u00f3 a los compa\u00f1eros musicales, Pante\u00f3n Rococ\u00f3 y Oscar Ch\u00e1vez, que hicieran el paro y les dejaran unos minutos de su tiempo (Gracias Don \u00d3scar, gracias Panteones).\u00a0 Las compa\u00f1eras cumplieron con presentar lo que hab\u00edan preparado por m\u00e1s de 5 meses.\u00a0 Cuando terminaron se reportaron con el SupMoy: \u201c<em>Ya regresamos ya<\/em>\u201d, dijeron.\u00a0 El SupMoy: <em>\u201c\u00bfC\u00f3mo les fue?<\/em>\u201d.\u00a0 Ellas: \u201c<em>Ya ganamos<\/em>\u201d.\u00a0 El SupMoy no dijo nada, pero seguro qued\u00f3 pensando \u201c<em>Total, quinientos a\u00f1os es un ratito nom\u00e1s, cre\u00ed que no me tocar\u00eda escuchar eso<\/em>\u201d. Ellas siguieron: \u201c<em>Un poco sufrimos porque la gente ped\u00eda otra.\u00a0 Mucho gritaban \u201c\u00a1otra!, \u00a1otra!\u201d, pero tras que no nos sabemos otra.\u00a0 De por s\u00ed tardamos en hacer esta canci\u00f3n.\u00a0 Si quieren otra tienen que esperar otros 6 meses<\/em>\u201d.\u00a0 SupMoy: \u201c<em>\u00bfY qu\u00e9 hicieron?<\/em>\u201d\u00a0 \u201c<em>Nos bajamos r\u00e1pido y nos protegimos con los compa\u00f1eros<\/em>\u201d, dijeron ellas y se fueron a la bailadera con el ska de los panteones.<\/p>\n<p><center><br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yqjLuz8drqs?feature=player_detailpage\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Bailable: \u201c<strong><em>La Danza del trabajo colectivo del Ma\u00edz<\/em><\/strong>\u201d. Coreograf\u00eda de bases de apoyo zapatistas de la zona Altos de Chiapas.\u00a0 \u00c9sta es la versi\u00f3n con la que se presentaron en la etapa de selecci\u00f3n.\u00a0 Para la participaci\u00f3n del 29 de julio en Oventik le a\u00f1adieron algunas cosas, como pudieron apreciar quienes asistieron.\u00a0 Tal vez los medios compas tengan el video del 29 en Oventik.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KJWcAzH7N-Q?feature=player_detailpage\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Poes\u00eda \u201c<strong><em>Cuando el Horizonte Mira el Ma\u00f1ana<\/em><\/strong>\u201d.\u00a0 Autor\u00eda de un joven base de apoyo zapatista de la zona Altos de Chiapas.\u00a0 Esta versi\u00f3n es cuando se present\u00f3 en la etapa selectiva.\u00a0 Cuando se ensayaba, se le dijo que iba a haber mucha gente, pero que no se pusiera nervioso.\u00a0 \u201c<em>T\u00fa mira el cuaderno y no levantes la vista<\/em>\u201d, le recomendaron.\u00a0 \u00c9l dijo que no ten\u00eda miedo, pero que ten\u00eda una duda.\u00a0 \u201c<em>\u00bfCu\u00e1l es?<\/em>\u201d, le preguntaron.\u00a0 \u00c9l dijo: \u201c<em>Es que no s\u00e9 si se dice \u201cpoema\u201d o \u201cpoes\u00eda\u201d<\/em>.\u00a0 Entonces ah\u00ed les encargamos que resuelvan la duda.<\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/9eb6qfbDowg?feature=player_detailpage\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;[:en]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-18014 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992-350x233.jpg\" alt=\"_MG_8992\" width=\"350\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992-350x233.jpg 350w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/MG_8992.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>THE ART THAT IS NEITHER SEEN NOR HEARD. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>(Note: the following are the comments made by Subcomandante Insurgente Mois\u00e9s to mark the conclusion of the Zapatista\u2019s contribution to the CompArte, in the Caracol of Oventik, on July 29, 2016. The threat of rain and the pressure of time did not allow for the <em>compa\u00f1er<\/em>o to fully develop some of his points and there were others that he was unable to touch on at all. Here we present the original version that he was going to give. In his voice, our Zapatista word). <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>THE ZAPATISTA ARMY FOR NATIONAL LIBERATION<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>MEXICO<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>July 29, 2016.<\/p>\n<p>Artists of Mexico and the world:<\/p>\n<p>Sisters, brothers, and <strong><em>hermanoas<\/em><\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>For us, Zapatistas, art is studied by creating many imaginations, reading the gaze, studying in listening, and practicing.<\/p>\n<p>It is by putting it into practice, that is, by doing it, that you will begin to see the result of the science and the art of imagination \u2013 the art of creativity.<\/p>\n<p>There is some science and art that is needed immediately, the kind that helps us imagine <em>how<\/em> to do it.<\/p>\n<p>There can be medium term science and art, and there is long term science and art that improves over the course of time.<\/p>\n<p>For example: To even make something tiny that will contribute to the new world requires that we involve ourselves profoundly in the science and art of imagination, in the gaze, in listening and in creativity, patience, and attention. It requires that we think about how to move forward while building and many other things that must be taken into account.<\/p>\n<p>Because what we want, or what we think about, is a new world, a new system. We don\u2019t want a copy of what we have, we don\u2019t want to improve it a little bit. This is a problem, we say, because there is no book or manual that explains how to create this new world. This book or manual hasn\u2019t been written yet, it is still in the heads of those with imagination, in the eyes that are ready to gaze at the new world that they want to see, in the ears that are attentive in order to hear the new world that they want.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->This requires a lot of wisdom and intelligence, a good understanding of many words and thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>We say that it works like this because this is how the development of our autonomy has been and will continue to be.<\/p>\n<p>It was built by thousands of Zapatista men and women, with science and art, and for now it can be seen in the 5 zones of the caracoles.<\/p>\n<p>The art that we are showing you, our <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em>, had a crude birth, it emerged from the heads of those women and men who themselves decided how to present it to you, [it is] about how they have worked as Zapatistas and autonomous people, with their resistance and their rebellious ways.<\/p>\n<p>The entire process was a chain of art \u2013 from the thinking about what they would present, whether it would be a dance number, song, poetry, sculpture, theater, or pottery, to the words, the ideas about how they would get from place to place, then where they were going to get the money for their rehearsal and performances, because they are collectives from the community, the region, the municipalities and the zone.<\/p>\n<p>There were three rounds of selection. For the first round, the people got together in their regions; then the regions met as autonomous municipalities for the second selection; and the municipalities met in zones for the final round.<\/p>\n<p>Their preparations took months.<\/p>\n<p>For the communities of thousands of Zapatista men and women, it was another iteration of what we are, but in a different form, it didn\u2019t happen through conversation or blah blah blah, but through the technique of Art, and everyone participated \u2013 children, teenagers, fathers, mothers, and grandparents.<\/p>\n<p>In artistic form, in the art form of the Zapatista <em>compa\u00f1er@s<\/em>, they were practicing their resistance and rebellion, their autonomous government of the <em>Junta de Buen Gobierno<\/em>, their MAREZ (Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities in Rebellion), their local authorities (<em>comisariadas, comisariados<\/em>, <em>agentas<\/em>, and <em>agentes<\/em>), their autonomous health systems, their autonomous education system, their autonomous radio stations, their 7 principles of lead by obeying in their new system of autonomous government, their democracy as communities, their justice, their freedom, their defense of mother earth, and their collective work on mother earth. This will all be the basis on which new generations of young women and young men will be formed, the basis for the Zapatista future.<\/p>\n<p>This is what we presented to you, <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em> of the national and international Sixth from Mexico and the world; only a small portion of the <em>compa\u00f1er@s<\/em> that were going to participate actually participated. One day we will present the rest to you, but right now there isn\u2019t time, because if we had all come, it would have taken over a month to do all of our presentations, and so that means that there is also an art and a science to how we planned to do a one-day presentation. Because the most marvelous of all of the arts is collective mutual support.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">-*-<\/p>\n<p><em>Compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em> from the National and International Sixth.<\/p>\n<p>Sisters and brothers of Mexico and the world.<\/p>\n<p>The storm and the hydra of monstrous capitalism wants to prevent us from seeing one another, but through our great effort we are seeing one another here and now.<\/p>\n<p>The <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em> from the thousands of Zapatista bases of support for the Zapatista Army for National Liberation want to show you their art.<\/p>\n<p>You have seen one part here and in other <em>caracoles<\/em> you could see other parts. Because more than two thousand artists have been selected and there were even more who didn\u2019t come, not because they didn\u2019t make it through the selection process, but because we didn\u2019t have the money to transport thousands of <em>compa\u00f1era<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1ero<\/em> artists.<\/p>\n<p>Our <em>compa\u00f1era<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1ero<\/em> artists aren\u2019t professional artists, but rather their profession is what we call \u201c<strong>Everythingologist [<em>Tod\u00f3logo<\/em>]\u201d<\/strong> because they are carpenters, masons, shop keepers, they work the land, are radio hosts, <em>milicianos<\/em> and <em>milicianas<\/em>, <em>insurgentas<\/em> and <em>insurgents<\/em>, autonomous authorities, teachers at the Zapatista little school, health and education promoters, and they still find the time to be artists.<\/p>\n<p>They are true artists in the art of constructing a new system of governance, the autonomy where the people command and the government obeys.<\/p>\n<p>It is an art that you can see, study, and that exists in practice, that you can know through its sharing.<\/p>\n<p>But the <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em> also make other art that you don\u2019t know about, that isn\u2019t disclosed in any press releases.<\/p>\n<p>It is the art of solidarity, the support for the people who struggle.<\/p>\n<p>Because the other art and science that the <em>compa\u00f1era<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1ero<\/em> Zapatista bases of support practice is their support for the struggle of the teachers movement.<\/p>\n<p>You did not see this science and art, but the way it was delivered; the food support was like the art of a hornet\u2019s nest, but there was also an art and science that preceded this.<\/p>\n<p>This is what happened:<\/p>\n<p>We realized that we needed to support this struggle by the teachers who are resisting the capitalist hydra and storm, which we have been talking about for a year.<\/p>\n<p>So then we figured out how much support we were able to give. First we used our word to support them, to say that their struggle is a just one.<\/p>\n<p>Then we tried to figure out how to support the resistance at the sites where they were putting up roadblocks and sit-ins and we realized that we could support them by providing food.<\/p>\n<p>Then we assessed how much support we could send them, and first, how our <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em> would respond if we supported them with food from the little that we have as a result of our collective labors.<\/p>\n<p>We figured out how, for example, the food support could work\u2014the delivery, the bags, and all of that. But what you don\u2019t see is the organization of the food collection community by community, the division of how much each community was supposed to provide, figuring out how many tons they were going to be able to get together so that they could figure out how they were going to transport it. Then there was the timing, because the news was saying that the blockades were still there, and then that the teachers were going to take them down to avoid being forcefully evicted because what they were doing was really hurting the rich, and this put a lot of pressure on us because the food that we collected would spoil if there wasn\u2019t any place to take it to.<\/p>\n<p>They had meetings everywhere in order to come to an agreement, because all of the <em>compa\u00f1er@s<\/em> said that the support that we needed to give to the teachers\u2019 movement was just and necessary.<\/p>\n<p>So they started to do the math (i.e division), the accounts as we say, say of how much each zone, MAREZ, region, and community was responsible for. There were a few zones where the commissions failed to meet their goal, they didn\u2019t fail in a bad way, but in a good way, because they had reported that their commission would provided 2 tons of food and when the time came they actually provided 7 tons more than they had promised, which was the case with the Zapatista bases of support in the North Zone of Chiapas, from the caracol of Roberto Barrios. And so, well, resolving the problem was Art, because no one had even imagined that they could provide 9 tons. We only had a 3-ton truck.<\/p>\n<p>The <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em>\u2019 work is <em>really <\/em>art, because they were asked how long it will take them to have 100 thousand tostadas ready \u2013 how could they calculate that when the corn is still on the cob?<\/p>\n<p>Well the <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> responded that the tostadas would be ready on x day at x time. Because they know how many hours it takes to cook the corn, and how many tostadas you can get from a kilo of corn.<\/p>\n<p>And the <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> even add flavor to the tostadas, from a little bit of beans, and salt, because they know that the tostadas are to support the teachers at the sit-ins and in resistance.<\/p>\n<p>And that is how they did it and now it is done, but you can\u2019t see it because it is already in people\u2019s stomachs, or it has become fertilizer because the <em>companer@<\/em> teachers have already consumed it.<\/p>\n<p>Collective work, the common, made it so that they could move things easily, from one hand to another, others moved things on horses, others by foot and on their back, others by car.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to the collective work of the <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>It was all a mathematic calculation, from beginning to end.<\/p>\n<p>All of this, it is all an expenditure, and the great majority is from collective work, communities, regions, autonomous municipalities. It is the real fruit of our work as organized communities of men and women.<\/p>\n<p>But you didn\u2019t see any of this and you wouldn\u2019t know about it if we didn\u2019t tell you about it, and it\u2019s all the work of our Zapatista <em>compa\u00f1era<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1ero<\/em> bases of support, in order to show that we care about a people who struggles with resistance.<\/p>\n<p>Why do we do this? Well, because we know and understand what it is to resist in struggle and how much work it takes to maintain a struggle in resistance.<\/p>\n<p>Figuring out how to provide this support is an art of imagination by the Zapatista communities.\u00a0 The \u201cresistance\u201d of the <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em> has gone on for 22 years, and that\u2019s a lot of experience and is a great building block solidarity. It is the demonstration of collectivity. For 22 years we Zapatistas have been in resistance and rebellion against capitalism, and we\u2019ve had, for 22 years, a new system of governing ourselves where the people command and the government obeys.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>-*-<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There are those who think that we should go out and struggle for the teachers. But if they think that way, then they haven\u2019t understood anything at all. Because that would mean that that I want someone to come and struggle for me. We Zapatista men and women don\u2019t ask for anyone to come and struggle for us. Each person must struggle, and we should mutually support one another, but that support cannot replace each person\u2019s struggle. Whoever struggles has the right to decide the direction of their path and with whom they walk that path. If others insert themselves, then they are no longer supporting that struggle, but supplanting it. Support is respect, not trying to direct or command. Just as we have understood that no one is going to give us what we need to eat if we don\u2019t work for it ourselves \u2013 it\u2019s the same thing. No one is going to liberate us except for ourselves.<\/p>\n<p>That is how we peoples of Mexico and the world organize ourselves, how we struggle in the world where we are in order to change it, as workers, teachers, peasants, all kinds of workers, we don\u2019t hold out hope that someone is going to come and struggle for us.<\/p>\n<p>This is how we already live, and they [the bad government] only come to try to manipulate us, to fool us and to do the all of the things they do to us.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>-*-<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Art, brothers and sisters, <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em>, is very important, because it is what provides us with an illustration of something new in life, something that illustrates something very different in real life\u2014it doesn\u2019t lie.<\/p>\n<p>Art is so powerful because it is already real life in the communities where the people command and the government obeys, thanks to the art of the imagination and the knowledge of how to create a new society, how to create a life in common. Our art shows that it is possible to create another form of governing, one that is totally different, that it is possible to create another life working in common to benefit the community itself.<\/p>\n<p>This makes me think of the deceased Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos, who often asked us questions when we were building a little house, there in the jungle, with Comandante Tacho. The deceased asked us, \u201cThese crossbeams, what are they for? Can you explain to me scientifically what they are for? And we were about to answer, when he hit us with another question, \u201cIs it science, or is it custom?\u201d Comandante Tacho and I looked at each other, and since he was in charge of the construction it was up to him to respond, \u201cWell, I learned from my father, and my father learned from my grandfather, and so on,\u201d said Comandante Tacho. The deceased responded, \u201cAh, well then it\u2019s custom, and it\u2019s not based on a scientific study.\u201d So he explained to us why the sciences and the arts are so important. And now we are coming to understand this. But wait, I\u2019ll tell you what the deceased scribbled down or wrote to us from the place where he now lives six feet under; we\u2019re going to ask him to send it to us and we are going to publish it, those of us who are still alive here where he had been living before. So <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em>, sisters and brothers. We Zapatistas think that now more than ever, we need ART, ORIGINARY PEOPLES, AND THE SCIENTISTS in order to give birth to a new world.<\/p>\n<p>So <em>compa\u00f1era<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1ero<\/em> artists from the National and International Sixth, get involved in the work of art with a lot of enthusiasm.<\/p>\n<p>Join us, brothers and sisters of Mexico and the world, in dreaming of an art where the people command, for their own good and the good of the people themselves.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you,<\/p>\n<p>From the mountains of Southeastern Mexico.<\/p>\n<p>Subcomandante Insurgente Mois\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p>Mexico, July 29, 2016.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Song, \u201c<strong><em>The Capacity of Women\u201d.<\/em> <\/strong>Lyrics, music, and choreography from the young, female and musical Zapatista group \u201cDignity and Resistance,\u201d bases of support from the Altos Zone of Chiapas. When they performed in Oventik, on June 29 in the afternoon, the sound system failed and it made them a little bit sad. And so on June 30, in CIDECI, SubMoy asked the <em>compa\u00f1ero<\/em> musicians Pante\u00f3n Rococ\u00f3 and Oscar Ch\u00e1vez to stop for a minute and they gave up a few minutes of their time (Thank you Don \u00d3scar, thank you Panteones). The <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em> were able to present what they had been preparing for more than 5 months. When they finished they reported back to SupMoy. \u201c<em>We\u2019re back,\u201d <\/em>they said. SupMoy said, \u201c<em>How did it go?\u201d <\/em>and they said, \u201c<em>we won.\u201d <\/em>SupMoy didn\u2019t say anything but he was definitely thinking,\u201d<em> \u201cAll in all, 500 years is a short time, but I never thought that I would get to hear this.\u201d <\/em>\u00a0They continued, \u201c<em>We felt a little bad because the people were asking for another. A lot of people were yelling \u2018One more! One more!\u2019 but we didn\u2019t know another one. It took us a long time just to make this one. If they want another one, they are going to have to wait a another six months.\u201d <\/em>SubMoy asked, \u201c<em>And so what did you do?\u201d \u201cWe left the stage quickly and hid ourselves among the compa\u00f1eros.\u201d <\/em>That\u2019s what they said and then they went to the dance floor for the Panteones\u2019 ska.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yqjLuz8drqs\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Dance number: \u201cThe Dance of the collective work of Maize.\u201d Choreography by the Zapatista bases of support of the Altos Zone in Chiapas. This is the version that they presented during the selection process. For the presentation on July 29 in Oventik they added a few more things, as those who were there got to see. Maybe in the compa media they have a video of July 29 in Oventik.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KJWcAzH7N-Q\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Poetry: \u201cWhen the Horizon looks to tomorrow.\u201d Written by a young Zapatista base of support from the Altos Zone in Chiapas. This is the version that he presented in the selection process. When he presented it, he was told that there would be a lot of people there, but not to get nervous. \u201cKeep your eyes on your notebook and don\u2019t look up,\u201d they recommended. He said that he wasn\u2019t scared but he was confused about one thing. \u201cWhat is it?\u201d they asked him. He said, \u201cI don\u2019t know if you are supposed to say \u2018poem\u2019 or \u2018poetry\u2019. 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