{"id":13305,"date":"2015-05-13T06:56:52","date_gmt":"2015-05-13T11:56:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=13305"},"modified":"2015-11-29T18:51:17","modified_gmt":"2015-11-30T00:51:17","slug":"comandanta-miriam-6-de-mayo-de-2015","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/?p=13305","title":{"rendered":"<!--:es-->Comandanta Miriam &#8211; 6 de mayo de 2015<!--:--><!--:en-->Comandanta Miriam &#8211; 6 May 2015<!--:-->"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--:es--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-13306\" title=\"DSC00551\" src=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/DSC005512-350x232.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"232\" srcset=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/DSC005512-350x232.jpg 350w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/DSC005512-1024x680.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/DSC005512.jpg 1228w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Escucha aqu\u00ed: [podcast]https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/Audios\/pensamiento\/6mayo_comandanta-miriam.mp3[\/podcast]<\/p>\n<p>Mayo 7 de 2015<\/p>\n<p>Buenas noches, compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros.<\/p>\n<p>Yo tambi\u00e9n me toca platicarles un poco c\u00f3mo es la situaci\u00f3n de las mujeres antes de 1994.<\/p>\n<p>Desde la llegada de los conquistadores sufrimos la triste situaci\u00f3n  de las mujeres. Nos despojaron nuestras tierras, nos quitaron nuestra  lengua, nuestra cultura. Es as\u00ed donde entr\u00f3 la dominaci\u00f3n del  caciquismo, terratenientes, entra la triple explotaci\u00f3n, humillaci\u00f3n,  discriminaci\u00f3n, marginaci\u00f3n, maltrato, desigualdad.<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><!--:en--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-13306\" title=\"DSC00551\" src=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/DSC005512-350x232.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"232\" srcset=\"https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/DSC005512-350x232.jpg 350w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/DSC005512-1024x680.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/DSC005512.jpg 1228w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Listen here: [podcast]https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/Audios\/pensamiento\/6mayo_comandanta-miriam.mp3[\/podcast]<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Comandanta Miriam<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>Good evening <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em> and <em>compa\u00f1eras<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I also have the chance to talk to you a bit about what the situation was for women prior to 1994.<\/p>\n<p>Women suffered through a very sad situation since the arrival of the  conquistadors. They stole our land and took our language, our culture.  This is how the domination of <em>caciquismo<\/em> [local despotism] and  landowners came into being alongside a triple exploitation, humiliation,  discrimination, marginalization, mistreatment, and inequality.<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><!--more--><!--:es--><\/p>\n<p>Porque los pinches patrones nos ten\u00eda como si fuera que somos el  due\u00f1o de ellos, nos mandaba a hacer todo el trabajo en las haciendas,  sin importar si tenemos hijos, maridos o si estamos enfermas. No nos  pregunta si estamos enfermas, si no llegamos a trabajar manda su  muchacho o el esclavo, a dejar el ma\u00edz enfrente de la cocina para que  hici\u00e9ramos la tortilla para ellos.<\/p>\n<p>Y as\u00ed pas\u00f3 mucho tiempo, trabajamos en la casa del patr\u00f3n. Molemos la  sal porque la sal no era as\u00ed como ahora, la sal que viene as\u00ed fina,  sino que la sal que antes usaban son grandes, son bolas grandes y lo  ten\u00edan que moler las mujeres; y llegaban a moler la sal para el ganado, y  a sacar la c\u00e1scara del caf\u00e9 cuando es tiempo de cosecha de caf\u00e9. Si  entra a las 6 de la ma\u00f1ana, sale a las 5 de la tarde. Todo el d\u00eda tiene  que dejar listo los bultos de caf\u00e9 que le toca hacer a una mujer.<\/p>\n<p>Es as\u00ed que trabajaron las mujeres. As\u00ed trabajaron las mujeres con  maltrato, con cargar el agua, y la miseria, o sea que le dan una paga  miserable, s\u00f3lo le dan un pu\u00f1ito de sal o un pu\u00f1ito de caf\u00e9 molido, es  el pago que le dan a las mujeres.<\/p>\n<p>Y as\u00ed pasando los a\u00f1os que las mujeres sufr\u00edan, y cuando nosotros,  cuando nosotras, a veces lloran nuestros hijos y amamantamos a nuestros  hijos, nos gritan, nos burlan, nos insulta f\u00edsicamente, que no sabemos  nada, que somos in\u00fatiles, estorbo para ellos. No nos respetan, nos usan  como si fuera objeto.<\/p>\n<p>Ellos hacen lo que le da la gana a una mujer, porque escogen a las  mujeres bonitas o a las muchachas bonitas como su amante y dejar hijos  por donde quiera, que no le importa qu\u00e9 sufren las mujeres, lo trata  como si fuera animal con sus hijos que crecen sin padre.<\/p>\n<p>Nos venden como si fu\u00e9ramos una mercanc\u00eda, todo esto en el tiempo del acasillamiento, nunca hubo descanso para nosotras.<\/p>\n<p>Voy a platicar un poco del acasillamiento. Acasillamiento es que  llegan en las haciendas o en el rancho, llegan con su familia y quedan  ah\u00ed, y trabajan para el patr\u00f3n, porque los hombres son los que trabajan  sembrar el caf\u00e9, limpiar el caf\u00e9, cosechar el caf\u00e9, limpiar el potrero,  sembrar el zacate, todo eso, hacer la milpa, el frijolar, pero era para  el patr\u00f3n; los hombres trabajan eso.<\/p>\n<p>Pero aparte hay otra cosa que les puedo platicar, como el  acasillamiento, aparte hay que le decimos mozo o esclavos, que de por s\u00ed  siempre va a estar en la hacienda, mujeres y hombres. Pero esos hombres  o mujeres que son esclavos o mozos, que quedan ah\u00ed en la hacienda, son  hombres y mujeres que a veces no tienen familia. Llega una familia nada  m\u00e1s a trabajar en esa hacienda y a veces enferman el pap\u00e1, la mam\u00e1, y  muere, y quedan ni\u00f1os hu\u00e9rfanos y el patr\u00f3n lo toma esos ni\u00f1os y lo  crecen ah\u00ed en la hacienda. \u00bfY qu\u00e9 hacen esos ni\u00f1os? No es porque lo  adopta como hijo adoptivo sino como esclavo. Esos ni\u00f1os crecen y le da  ese trabajo, si tiene mascota el patr\u00f3n, o sea tiene sus mascotas, el  perro, el mono, cualquier cosa de animales, y le da de cuidar a su mozo,  lo cuida. Donde va el mono ah\u00ed tiene que ir, ah\u00ed tiene que cuidar,  tiene que ba\u00f1ar, tiene que limpiar donde duerme, as\u00ed pasa.<\/p>\n<p>Ya despu\u00e9s, cuando hace fiesta el patr\u00f3n, como antes llegaban los  curas en las haciendas grandes, y los patrones como lo bautizan sus  hijos, o cumplea\u00f1os, o casamiento de sus hijas en las haciendas, le da  casamiento los curas. Ya despu\u00e9s hacen convivios y esos mozos les dicen  que cuidara la puerta mientras ellos est\u00e1n haciendo fiesta, conviviendo  junto con sus compadres, sus amigos, todo eso, mientras el mozo cuida la  puerta, no lo deja entrar ni un perro ah\u00ed donde se est\u00e1n conviviendo.  Todo el d\u00eda tiene que estar, seg\u00fan cu\u00e1nto dura su fiesta de un patr\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Y la esclava son ellas que hacen la comida, que lavan los platos, que  cuidan el hijo del patr\u00f3n o cuida sus hijos de sus amigos de los  patrones.<\/p>\n<p>As\u00ed vive la gente ah\u00ed en las haciendas, y no es porque le da de comer  lo que comen tambi\u00e9n en el convivio, sino que tienen que tomar pozol si  hay pozol, frijol si hay frijol, s\u00f3lo lo que comen ellos mientras ellos  comen cosas buenas, pero con sus amigos.<\/p>\n<p>Ya despu\u00e9s, cuando el patr\u00f3n quiere salir a una ciudad, de su  hacienda a una ciudad que tiene que caminar 6 d\u00edas, y se va el mozo, o  si tiene hijos los patrones, a veces tienen hijos pero son inv\u00e1lidos, el  mozo tiene que cargar el hijo del patr\u00f3n a llevar a la ciudad. Y si  vuelve a regresar en la hacienda la patrona tiene que ir otra vez el  mozo all\u00e1 y traer otra vez a su hijo cargando.<\/p>\n<p>Y como cosechan caf\u00e9, todo lo que cosechan en la hacienda, y ese mozo  tiene que estar al tanto con las mulas, con los machos, no s\u00e9 si  conocen los caballos, tienen que ensillar, desensillar su caballo del  patr\u00f3n, orde\u00f1ar el ganado y llevar las cargas hasta en la ciudad donde  vive el patr\u00f3n. Si vive en Comit\u00e1n tienen que ir a dejar hasta en  Comit\u00e1n, sale en la hacienda y tiene que ir porque le dicen que son  arrieros. Y as\u00ed sufrieron muchos hombres y mujeres esclavas en ese  tiempo.<\/p>\n<p>S\u00ed hay matas de \u00e1rboles frutales ah\u00ed dentro de la hacienda, si se  trepan ah\u00ed a cortar dicen que no lo dejan cortar, lo tienen que bajar  echando chicote, no s\u00e9 si saben, el l\u00e1tigo, le pegan, no puede cortar  las frutas sin permiso del patr\u00f3n porque todo lo que cosecha lo lleva a  la ciudad. Es as\u00ed que sufrieron los hombres y las mujeres.<\/p>\n<p>Despu\u00e9s de tanto sufrimiento de las mujeres o la explotaci\u00f3n del  acasillamiento, se dieron cuenta los hombres de c\u00f3mo los maltrataban a  sus mujeres. Unos pensaron que mejor salir de la hacienda de  acasillamiento. Uno por uno fueron saliendo y se refugiaron a las  monta\u00f1as porque quedaron los cerros, o sea los finqueros no acapararon  la tierra de los cerros, sino qued\u00f3, y ah\u00ed se fueron a refugiarse. Como  que pensaron que es mejor salir para que no sigan sufriendo las mujeres  en esa hacienda.<\/p>\n<p>Ya despu\u00e9s cuando ya est\u00e1n en las monta\u00f1as algunos pas\u00f3 mucho tiempo  as\u00ed, y despu\u00e9s se dieron cuenta que es mejor juntarse y formar una  comunidad, y as\u00ed volvieron a regresar en las monta\u00f1as. Se juntaron,  platicaron y lo formaron una comunidad donde pueden vivir. As\u00ed formaron  la comunidad.<\/p>\n<p>Pero otra vez cuando ya est\u00e1n en las comunidades, como el patr\u00f3n, o  sea el acasillado trae otra idea, como lo trataron con el patr\u00f3n los  hombres, como que traen arrasando malas ideas tambi\u00e9n los hombres, y  aplica dentro de la casa como el patroncito de la casa. No es cierto que  se liber\u00f3 las mujeres sino que ya son los hombres que fueron el  patroncito de la casa.<\/p>\n<p>Y otra vez las mujeres quedaron en la casa como si fuera c\u00e1rcel, que  no salen otra vez las mujeres, quedaron ah\u00ed encerradas otra vez.<\/p>\n<p>Ya cuando nacen ni\u00f1as no somos bienvenidas en este mundo, porque  somos mujeres, porque naci\u00f3 una ni\u00f1a, o sea como que no nos quiere. Pero  si nace un var\u00f3n todav\u00eda festejan todav\u00eda los hombres, contentos se  ponen porque son hombres. O sea, trae una mala costumbre de los  patrones. As\u00ed pas\u00f3 mucho tiempo. Despu\u00e9s, como nacen las mujeres, es que  como son in\u00fatiles las mujeres y si nace el ni\u00f1o ellos pueden hacer todo  el trabajo.<\/p>\n<p>Pero lo bueno, lo que hicieron, es que no perdieron para formar la  comunidad, empezaron a nombrar sus representantes de la comunidad, y  empezaron a hacer reuniones, convivieron juntos. Lo bueno es que no le  quitaron esa idea, no le quitaron sino que vinieron otra vez. Los  patrones y la conquista quisieron desaparecer su cultura, pero se  equivocaron porque s\u00ed pudieron formar su comunidad.<\/p>\n<p>Tambi\u00e9n los hombres porque es el que manda en la casa y las mujeres  es el que obedece lo que dice el hombre. Y si te dice que vas a casar,  es que vas a casar, o sea no te va a preguntar si quieres casar con el  hombre que te viene a pedir, porque el pap\u00e1 ya tom\u00f3 el trago, o sea ya  tom\u00f3 antes el trago y te obliga a mandar con el hombre que no quieres.<\/p>\n<p>Es as\u00ed como venimos sufriendo otra vez con los esposos, porque nos  dicen que las mujeres s\u00f3lo sirven para la cocina, s\u00f3lo sirve para  atender el esposo, s\u00f3lo sirve para cuidar los hijos, y como los hombres  de por s\u00ed no abrazan a sus hijos, o sea no apoyan a las mujeres, sino  que s\u00f3lo te da tu hijo y qu\u00e9 le importa c\u00f3mo lo vas a crecer tu hijo. Y  como -voy a hablar en la realidad como pas\u00f3 durante a\u00f1os- a veces las  mujeres decimos que cada a\u00f1o nace un beb\u00e9, cada a\u00f1o y medio nace un  beb\u00e9, o sea como estaturitas crecen los ni\u00f1os, de un a\u00f1o, al a\u00f1o y medio  ya est\u00e1 otro, as\u00ed, escaloncito crecen los ni\u00f1os. Pero el pap\u00e1 no le  importa si est\u00e1 sufriendo la mujer porque la mujer tiene que cargar  le\u00f1a, tiene que hacer milpa, tiene que asear la casa, tiene que barrer,  cuidar los animales, tiene que lavar la ropa, tienen que cuidar el ni\u00f1o,  el pa\u00f1al, todo eso, todo es trabajo de mujeres.<\/p>\n<p>Por eso decimos que sufrimos la triple explotaci\u00f3n de la mujer,  porque la mujer tiene que estar a las tres o cuatro de la ma\u00f1ana en la  cocina, dependiendo cu\u00e1ntas horas lleva para ir a trabajar el  trabajadero de los hombres, tienen que levantar temprano para hacer el  pozol, el caf\u00e9, el desayuno del hombre. El hombre se va a trabajar,  regresa en la tarde el hombre, quiere que ya est\u00e1 cargado su agua,  servido su agua donde va a ba\u00f1ar; ba\u00f1a el hombre, sale a pasear, a  jugar, la mujer queda otra vez en la casa todo el d\u00eda, hasta en la noche  como esta hora no ha dormido todav\u00eda la mujer, hasta las 8 duerme la  mujer.<\/p>\n<p>Y es as\u00ed que venimos sufriendo mucho. No le importa al hombre si  est\u00e1s enfermo, c\u00f3mo te sientes, no te pregunta y as\u00ed pas\u00f3. As\u00ed vivieron  en realidad, as\u00ed vivieron las mujeres, nosotros no echamos mentira  porque lo vivieron.<\/p>\n<p>Ya despu\u00e9s cuando vas en una iglesia o un centro ceremonial donde  hacen fiesta van tambi\u00e9n las mujeres, a veces va, pero con la cabeza  agachada. O sea no debes levantar tu cabeza, tienes que caminar as\u00ed  agachada, ni voltear en los lados, tapar la cabeza con el rebozo as\u00ed,  como que as\u00ed queda tu carita ah\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>As\u00ed pas\u00f3 mucho tiempo que lo tra\u00eda arrastrando el hombre esas malas  ideas, esas malas ense\u00f1anzas. As\u00ed pas\u00f3, compa\u00f1eros. Como que no somos  nada. Como que s\u00f3lo los hombres s\u00ed pueden ser autoridades, pueden salir  en las calles y pueden participar.<\/p>\n<p>No hab\u00eda escuela. En algunas comunidades hubo escuela despu\u00e9s pero  tampoco no fuimos a la escuela porque somos mujeres, no nos dejan ir a  la escuela porque si nos vamos a la escuela nos dicen que s\u00f3lo vamos a  buscar marido ah\u00ed, y mejor aprender a trabajar en la cocina porque de  por s\u00ed vamos a tener marido y tenemos que aprender todo c\u00f3mo atender un  esposo.<\/p>\n<p>Y cuando nos pega, cuando nos insulta nuestro esposo, no podemos  reclamar. Y si pedimos auxilio con otras instituciones del mal gobierno  son los m\u00e1s peores, porque apoyan a los hombres, les dan m\u00e1s raz\u00f3n a los  hombres y nosotros quedamos calladas, humilladas, avergonzada por ser  mujer.<\/p>\n<p>No tuvimos el derecho en la reuni\u00f3n de participar, que nos dicen que  somos una tonta, in\u00fatil, que no servimos para nada. Nos dejan en la  casa. No tuvimos la libertad.<\/p>\n<p>Y no hay atenci\u00f3n a la salud, aunque hab\u00eda cl\u00ednicas, hospitales del  mal gobierno, o sea como que no nos atiende porque no sabemos hablar la  castilla, y a veces nos regresamos y muchas mujeres y ni\u00f1os mueren de  enfermedades curables porque de por s\u00ed no somos nada para ellos, porque  nos discriminan porque somos ind\u00edgenas, nos dicen que somos indios pata  rajada, que no podemos entrar en las cl\u00ednicas, en los hospitales, porque  no nos dejan, s\u00f3lo le dan atenci\u00f3n a otra gente que son de dinero.<\/p>\n<p>Todo esto sufrimos en carne propia. Nunca tuvimos la oportunidad de  decir lo que sentimos por muchos a\u00f1os, por la ense\u00f1anza de los  conquistadores y de los malos gobiernos.<\/p>\n<p>Es todo, compa\u00f1eros. Contin\u00faa la otra compa.<!--:--><!--:en--><\/p>\n<p>The fucking bosses had us as if they were our owners; they sent us to  do all the work on the haciendas, without caring if we had children,  husbands, or if we were sick. They never asked if we were sick; if we  didn\u2019t make it to work, they sent their servant or slave to leave the  corn in front of the kitchen so that we would make tortillas for them.<\/p>\n<p>Much time passed like this, with us working in the bosses\u2019 house. We  ground the salt because the salt then was not the same as it is now, now  it comes finely ground. The salt we used before came in large balls,  and we women had to grind it. Women also ground the salt for the  livestock, and shelled coffee when it was coffee harvest time. If we  started at 6 in the morning, we finished at 5 in the evening. Women had  to keep preparing the bags of coffee throughout the whole day.<\/p>\n<p>This is how the women worked. Women were mistreated in their work,  carrying water and all of that and paid miserably; they were only given a  little handful of salt or a handful of ground coffee, that was the  payment given to the women.<\/p>\n<p>Years passed and women suffered like this. And when our babies cried  and we nursed them, we were yelled at, made fun of, insulted physically;  they said that we didn\u2019t know anything, that we were useless, that we  were a bother to them. They didn\u2019t respect us and they used us as if we  were objects.<\/p>\n<p>They did whatever they wanted to a woman; they chose the pretty women  or the pretty girls as their lovers, and left children all over the  place; they didn\u2019t care that the women suffered, they treated them like  animals, with their children growing up without a father.<\/p>\n<p>They sold us as if we were commodities during the <em>acasillamiento<\/em><a name=\"_ednref1\" href=\"http:\/\/enlacezapatista.ezln.org.mx\/2015\/05\/19\/comandanta-miriam-may-6-2015\/#_edn1\"><em><strong>[i]<\/strong><\/em><\/a>; there was never rest for us women.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m going to talk a little bit about the <em>acasillamiento<\/em>. <em>Acasillamiento<\/em> refers to when people go to the haciendas or ranches with their  families and stay there and work for the boss. The men were the ones who  did the work of planting coffee, cleaning the coffee fields, harvesting  the coffee, clearing the pastures, planting the grass, all this work,  taking care of the corn and bean fields. The men did this work for the  boss.<\/p>\n<p>Apart from this, there is another thing I could tell you about the <em>acasillamiento<\/em>, which are the <em>mozos<\/em> or slaves there, men and women who are always going to live on the hacienda. Those men or women that are slaves or <em>mozos<\/em>,  who live at the hacienda, are men and women that sometimes don\u2019t have  family. For example, a family comes just to work on the hacienda, and  sometimes the dad and mom get sick and die and the children are  orphaned. The boss takes these children and raises them on the hacienda.  And what do these children do? Its not like the bosses adopt them as an  adoptive child, but rather as a slave. Those children grow and this is  the work they are given: if the boss has a pet, or pets, such as a dog, a  monkey, or some kind of animal, the boss has the <em>mozo<\/em> take  care of it, care for the animal. Wherever the monkey goes, that\u2019s where  the child is; they have to take care of it, bathe it, clean where it  sleeps. That\u2019s how it works.<\/p>\n<p>Later, when the boss has a party\u2014because before the priests would  come to the large haciendas of the bosses and baptize their children, or  for a birthday, or to perform a marriage ceremony for his daughters\u2014and  afterwards they would have parties and tell the <em>mozos<\/em> to guard the door. They would have the <em>mozo<\/em> watch the door while they were celebrating with their colleagues and friends. The <em>mozo<\/em> guards the door, he can\u2019t let even a dog come into where they are  partying, and he has to be there all day, for as long as the boss\u2019s  party keeps going.<\/p>\n<p>And the women slaves were the ones who made the food, washed the  dishes, and took care of the boss\u2019s son, or the children of the boss\u2019s  friends.<\/p>\n<p>That is how the people on the haciendas lived, and they didn\u2019t get to eat what was eaten at the gatherings; they had to drink <em>pozol<\/em><a name=\"_ednref2\" href=\"http:\/\/enlacezapatista.ezln.org.mx\/2015\/05\/19\/comandanta-miriam-may-6-2015\/#_edn2\"><em><strong>[ii]<\/strong><\/em><\/a> if there was <em>pozol<\/em>, eat beans if there were beans. That was all they ate, meanwhile the boss ate the good stuff, but with his friends.<\/p>\n<p>Later, when the boss wanted to go to the city, from his hacienda to a city that is, say, a 6-day walk, the <em>mozo<\/em> would go along. If the boss had children\u2014sometimes the children are disabled\u2014the <em>mozo<\/em> had to carry the boss\u2019s child to the city. And if the boss\u2019s wife came to the hacienda, the <em>mozo<\/em> goes again and carries the child back again.<\/p>\n<p>And when they harvested coffee, in any harvest on the hacienda, the <em>mozo<\/em> had to be tending to the mules. I don\u2019t know if you know about horses, but the <em>mozo<\/em> had to saddle and unsaddle the boss\u2019s horse, herd the cattle, and take  the loads to the city where the boss lives. If he lives in Comit\u00e1n the <em>mozo<\/em> had to go all the way to Comit\u00e1n. He had to leave the hacienda and go  as the mule-driver. This is how many enslaved men and women suffered  during that time.<\/p>\n<p>If there are fruit tree orchards inside the hacienda and one of them  climbed up to pick some fruit, the bosses wouldn\u2019t let them. They got  them down by whipping them, I don\u2019t know if you know how the lash works;  they would hit them with it. They can\u2019t pick fruit without the boss\u2019s  permission because the entire harvest was to be taken to the city. This  is how the men and women suffered.<\/p>\n<p>After so much suffering by women and the exploitation during the <em>acasillamiento<\/em>,  the men started realizing how their women were being mistreated. Some  thought it better to leave the hacienda. One by one they started leaving  and taking refuge in the mountains because these hill lands were not  claimed by the plantation owners. So they took refuge there. They  thought it better to leave so that the women would not continue to  suffer on the hacienda.<\/p>\n<p>After awhile in the mountains\u2014and many spent a long time there\u2014they  realized that it was better to join together and form a community, and  that\u2019s how they came to live that way. They got together, talked, and  formed a community where they could live. That is how they formed the  community.<\/p>\n<p>But again, once they were living in the communities, those ideas that came from the boss or the <em>acasillado<\/em> were brought in. It\u2019s as if the men drug these bad ideas along with  them and applied them inside the house. They acted like the little boss  of the house. It\u2019s not true that the women were liberated then, because  the men became the little bosses of the house.<\/p>\n<p>And once again the women stayed at home as if it was a jail. Women didn\u2019t go out; they were shut in their houses once again.<\/p>\n<p>When girls are born, we are not welcomed into the world because we  are women; when a little girl was born, it is as if we were not loved.  But if a boy was born, the men celebrated and were content because they  are men. They brought this bad custom from the bosses. That\u2019s how it was  for a long time. When girls were born they acted as if women were  useless, and if a boy was born, as if they could do all of the work.<\/p>\n<p>But one good thing they did was that they did not lose the memory of  how to form a community; they began to name community representatives  and hold meetings and gatherings together. It was good that this idea  was not lost, it wasn\u2019t taken away and it came to life again. The bosses  and the conquest wanted to make this culture disappear, but the bosses  were wrong, because the people could still form their community.<\/p>\n<p>Another thing is that the man gives the orders in the house and the  women obey what he says. And if he tells you that you\u2019re going to get  married, you have get married. He\u2019s not going to ask you if you want to  get married to the man who came to ask for your hand; your father  already accepted the liquor they offered, he drank it already and this  obligates you to go with this man that you do not love.<\/p>\n<p>This is how we came to suffer once again with our husbands because  they told us that women are only useful in the kitchen, or to take care  of their husbands, or to take care of the children. The men didn\u2019t hold  their children; they didn\u2019t support the women. They only gave you the  child, and then who cares how the child is raised. And\u2014I\u2019m going to talk  about how it really was for years\u2014we women often say that a baby was  born every year, every year and a half, growing up like a little  staircase, every year or year and a half there is another one. But the  father didn\u2019t care if his wife was suffering because she had to carry  firewood, plant the cornfield, clean the house, sweep, take care of the  animals, wash the clothes, take care of the children, change the  diapers, and all of that. All of that was women\u2019s work.<\/p>\n<p>This is why we say that we suffered triple exploitation as women.  Women had to be awake and in the kitchen at 3 or 4 in the morning,  depending on how much time the men needed to get to their fields. The  women had to get up early to make <em>pozol<\/em>, coffee, and breakfast  for the men. The men go to work, and when they come back in the  afternoon they want the water for their bath to have been carried up to  the house already and be ready for them to bathe. The men bathe and then  leave the house to walk around, to play, and the women are once again  stuck at home the whole day, until the night\u2014around this time right  now\u2014the women are still awake; they don\u2019t go to sleep until 8.<\/p>\n<p>So we were really suffering. The men didn\u2019t care if you were sick, or  how you felt, they didn\u2019t ask\u2014that\u2019s just how it was. That is how women  really lived; we\u2019re not lying because that is how we lived.<\/p>\n<p>When you would go to church or a ceremonial center for a festival,  and women did go sometimes, you had to lower your head. You couldn\u2019t  raise your head, you had to walk with your head bowed, without turning  to the sides, and covering your head with the <em>rebozo<\/em> [shawl] like this, so that just your face shows.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of time went by like this, during which men dragged along these bad ideas, these bad learnings. That is how it happened, <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em>. As if we were nothing. As if only the men could be authorities, only the men could go into the street and participate.<\/p>\n<p>There was no school. Later on in some communities there was school,  but we didn\u2019t go because we were women; they didn\u2019t let us go to school  because if we went they\u2019d say that we only went to school to find a  husband. And that it was better to learn to work in the kitchen because  if we were indeed going to have a husband, we needed to learn how to  take care of him.<\/p>\n<p>And when our husband hit us, when he insulted us, we couldn\u2019t  complain. If we asked for help from the other institutions of the bad  government they were much worse because they defended the men, and said  the men are right; and so we remained silent, humiliated, and  embarrassed at being women.<\/p>\n<p>We didn\u2019t have the right to come to meetings to participate, and they  said that we were stupid, useless, and that we weren\u2019t worth anything.  They left us at home. We did not have freedom.<\/p>\n<p>There was no health care. Even where there were clinics and hospitals  that belonged to the bad government, they wouldn\u2019t see us because we  didn\u2019t know how to speak Spanish. And sometimes we had to return to our  homes, and many women and children died of curable diseases; we weren\u2019t  worth anything to them, and they discriminated against us because we  were indigenous. They said that we were just dirty barefoot indians, and  we couldn\u2019t enter the clinics or hospitals. They wouldn\u2019t let us, they  only took care of people with money.<\/p>\n<p>All this we suffered in our own flesh. We never had the opportunity  to say what we felt for many years, because of the teachings of the  conquistadores and the bad governments.<\/p>\n<p>That is all, <em>compa\u00f1eros<\/em>. Another <em>compa<\/em> will continue.<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"_edn1\" href=\"http:\/\/enlacezapatista.ezln.org.mx\/2015\/05\/19\/comandanta-miriam-may-6-2015\/#_ednref1\">[i]<\/a> Indicates the time period in which the <em>caciques<\/em>,  or local land bosses, held great expanses of land and had almost total  power over the indigenous workers in a kind of indebted servitude.<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"_edn2\" href=\"http:\/\/enlacezapatista.ezln.org.mx\/2015\/05\/19\/comandanta-miriam-may-6-2015\/#_ednref2\">[ii]<\/a> <em>Pozol<\/em> is a drink made from ground maize mixed with water and often consumed  in the Mexican countryside as a midmorning or midday meal.<!--:--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Escucha aqu\u00ed: [podcast]https:\/\/radiozapatista.org\/Audios\/pensamiento\/6mayo_comandanta-miriam.mp3[\/podcast] Mayo 7 de 2015 Buenas noches, compa\u00f1eras y compa\u00f1eros. Yo tambi\u00e9n me toca platicarles un poco c\u00f3mo es la situaci\u00f3n de las mujeres antes de 1994. Desde la llegada de los conquistadores sufrimos la triste situaci\u00f3n de las mujeres. Nos despojaron nuestras tierras, nos quitaron nuestra lengua, nuestra cultura. 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